Why do Christians hate the theory of evolution?

[Hammster]

I respect you opinion, and I agree that it can be frustrating to talk to people who won't believe the Bible for rational reasons. But was the Lord talking about Moses' Law, or was He talking about the book of Genesis? I am honestly asking from a position of ignorance. Did Moses write Genesis? Do you really think that the verse in Luke was referring to the amount of time that elapsed between the creation of the universe and the current time, or was He talking about Moses' teachings on how to live life?

Whether or not he wrote Genesis is can be debated. We are pretty sure He wrote Exodus. And what I quoted at the beginning was from the 10 commandments.

 

[Bluelion]

Whether or not he wrote Genesis is can be debated. We are pretty sure He wrote Exodus. And what I quoted at the beginning was from the 10 commandments.

One thing is for sure it can not be debated Moses wrote the law as Jesus referred to the Law of Moses.

 

[Sayre]

Here's the bottom line for me.

But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'" (Luke 16:31 NASB)

So if they don't want to listen to what Moses said about creation, why am I going to think that they will believe that Christ rose from the dead?

Moses didn't write Genesis. The earth is old. Evolution is a fact. The bible contains errors and was written by mankind. And Jesus rose from the dead.

Kindly don't infer that people who don't believe Moses don't believe in the resurrection. That renders them non Christian and that's against the rules

 

[Hammster]

Moses didn't write Genesis. The earth is old. Evolution is a fact. The bible contains errors and was written by mankind. And Jesus rose from the dead.

Kindly don't infer that people who don't believe Moses don't believe in the resurrection. That renders them non Christian and that's against the rules

I'll just say this.

But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'" (Luke 16:31 NASB)

 

[Bluelion]

Moses didn't write Genesis. The earth is old. Evolution is a fact. The bible contains errors and was written by mankind. And Jesus rose from the dead.

Kindly don't infer that people who don't believe Moses don't believe in the resurrection. That renders them non Christian and that's against the rules

First off that is preaching against the Bible sense The Word of God says it was written by Gods inspiration through men. Meaning God wrote the Bible through men. Evolution is not a fact, God's word is fact and the final Word. Evolution is reject by all Baptist churches I know of. The Bible does not contain errors it is the divine work of God.

How about you stop blaspheming God now.

Also no one rejects God's word and has part in the resurrection that is fact.

 

[Sayre]

I'll just say this.

But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'" (Luke 16:31 NASB)

This verse cannot be about me because I am persuaded, and I am persuaded BEACUSE He rose from the dead. So I've no idea why you picked out that verse because it cannot refer to me. I take it that the reference to Moses in that verse is about the mosaic law. The clue is that "Moses" is named with the Prophets - and this tells me that Jesus is making reference to the order of the Hebrew OT. Law (Mosaic law), Prophets and Writings.

Believing in the mosaic law is not the same as believing in mosaic authorship. "Who wrote this?" is a different question to "Is this writing correct?".

 

[Sayre]

First off that is preaching against the Bible sense The Word of God says it was written by Gods inspiration through men. Meaning God wrote the Bible through men. Evolution is not a fact, God's word is fact and the final Word. Evolution is reject by all Baptist churches I know of. The Bible does not contain errors it is the divine work of God.

How about you stop blaspheming God now.

Also no one rejects God's word and has part in the resurrection that is fact.

Uh... it isn't against the bible to say that man wrote the bible, or that the bible contains errors. The OT history between the books of Kings and Chronicles clearly contradict each other. We all know this - and it is no big deal. The bible never claims to be inerrant - it claims to be inspired and infallible, and they are very very different topics. The fact that there are errors, and written by mankind, doesn't make it of no value, and doesn't make it unsuitable for teaching and edification as written in Timothy.

The point I'm making is that a person's belief about parts of the OT doesn't infer their beliefs about the resurrection of Christ. You insult a great many of your brothers and sisters in Christ when you do that.

Accusing me of blasphemy because I disagree with your interpretation of the bible is against the rules - but we all know those rules are only applied in a one way fashion - so insult away . There's even a mod doing it to me in this thread. Thank God for thick skin eh?

 

[Hammster]

This verse cannot be about me because I am persuaded, and I am persuaded BEACUSE He rose from the dead. So I've no idea why you picked out that verse because it cannot refer to me. I take it that the reference to Moses in that verse is about the mosaic law. The clue is that "Moses" is named with the Prophets - and this tells me that Jesus is making reference to the order of the Hebrew OT. Law (Mosaic law), Prophets and Writings.

Believing in the mosaic law is not the same as believing in mosaic authorship. "Who wrote this?" is a different question to "Is this writing correct?".

Okay.

 

[Sayre]

Okay.

What is that supposed to mean? You can't just hurl accusations and then answer "okay" when your implications are shown to be false.

 

[Sayre]

I did not realise I was in the baptist forum. Adios.

 

[High Fidelity]

Because as Christians we believe in the Genesis account of creation. Evolution is a theory that takes God as the author of creation out of the equation. I personally do not see why science and Christianity need to fight. In my opinion God is the creator of science therefore science and Christianity can work together. You don't have to pick one or the other you can have both.

Not necessarily. I, as well as many others, believe in theistic evolution.

 

[Alithis]

Moses didn't write Genesis. The earth is old. Evolution is a fact. The bible contains errors and was written by mankind. And Jesus rose from the dead.

Kindly don't infer that people who don't believe Moses don't believe in the resurrection. That renders them non Christian and that's against the rules

evolution is a fact? did he really just say that? lol

 

[Alithis]

Not necessarily. I, as well as many others, believe in theistic evolution.

not very many.

 

[classicalhero]

Watcher man, please read my original post, and the link I mention, and see page 21 of the literal translation of the Hebrew text, which does not mention dust at all.

I take exception to that comment, Blue Lion. If you read my earlier post about the LITERAL translation of the Hebrew text, the Bible does not mention "dust," it simply states that God "fattened" man into being, which I think indicates some sort of process. The dust part was poetic license on the part of modern translators. I challenge anyone to read the link I provided at the top and refute it with a Biblical quote.

Blue Lion, I don't really care what it "sounds" like, I'm talking about the literal translation of the Bible as it was written in Jesus' language. I can't find a single passage in it that refutes evolution. Please enlighten me.

The Hebrew does use the word for Dust when God created man. Genesis 2:7 Hebrew Text Analysis
If you look you will see that the Hebrew word "aphar" is used in Genesis 2:7, so I don't know where you are getting your info from.

BTW, God and evolution don't mix, since the whole point of evolution is to disprove God and the fact that he is creator. We are just a product of chance, rather than deliberate design by God.

 

[High Fidelity]

not very many.

A lot do. Theists that don't are likely the minority.

That or there was a verse missed... "On the Eighth day, God created 3.5 billion year old fossils".

 

[Alithis]

A lot do. Theists that don't are likely the minority.

That or there was a verse missed... "On the Eighth day, God created 3.5 billion year old fossils".

don'tever use age .
it is based purely on conjecture and belief.
it is a great dishonesty to call belief "fact" truth and fact are very different.

 

[Bluelion]

Uh... it isn't against the bible to say that man wrote the bible, or that the bible contains errors. The OT history between the books of Kings and Chronicles clearly contradict each other. We all know this - and it is no big deal. The bible never claims to be inerrant - it claims to be inspired and infallible, and they are very very different topics. The fact that there are errors, and written by mankind, doesn't make it of no value, and doesn't make it unsuitable for teaching and edification as written in Timothy.

The point I'm making is that a person's belief about parts of the OT doesn't infer their beliefs about the resurrection of Christ. You insult a great many of your brothers and sisters in Christ when you do that.

Accusing me of blasphemy because I disagree with your interpretation of the bible is against the rules - but we all know those rules are only applied in a one way fashion - so insult away . There's even a mod doing it to me in this thread. Thank God for thick skin eh?

Oh please spare me the victim role. Preaching against the Bible in the Baptist forum is against thew rules.

I believe in our statement of faith it says we believe the Bible to be inspired work of God and as such is with out error.

You don't even know what your talking about, the books in the Bible can not contradict themselves or they would not have been aloud in the Bible the fact you don't understand what it says does not mean it constricts itself.

It is blaspheme to claim the Word of God is not The Word of God, and there is no rule against saying so.

Maybe you would find fellow ship with atheist section. Yes it does claim and is inerrant. I have wrote a few papers about. The fact that God inspired and saw through it's creation and blessed the Book, it is there for sense God is incapable of making a mistake is with out error.

Surest way to offend every one in this section is to say the Bible has faults and contradicts it self, that is a heresy.

 

[Bluelion]

don'tever use age .
it is based purely on conjecture and belief.
it is a great dishonesty to call belief "fact" truth and fact are very different.

Have these people ever thought instead of God being wrong that man's dating system is all wrong and God is right. Just a thought.

 

[Alithis]

Have these people ever thought instead of God being wrong that man's dating system is all wrong and God is right. Just a thought.

im convinced mans dating system is flawed .

for instance carbon dating is based on something they know without doubt to be a certain age ...
(im not sure what that age is but i think itgs not more then 2000 years old . so using that as the template they then measure that something else is 80million years old .??
unless they can place beside it an object known to actually be 80,million years old with which to compare it -thier measurement is purley conjecture and not fact ... they know this but are seldom honest about it .

the dating system is accurate ,up to an approximation of 2000-3000 years .. beyond that they have absolutely no provable benchmark to base it on . they "streeetch" the age to fit their belief system rather then be honest and change what they believe .. because if they admit that the aging measurement they use is flawed .. they have to consider the bible true .

Jesus made five loaves and a few fish ... instantaneously create from nothing as he took them from the basket to feed five thousand ...

how is this different from creating the earth the same way .. the theory of 80millionyear old theistic evolution is based ...beneath all the hype and fancy words .. on doubt - which is unbelief .
wil the same "Christian " say amen when we quote ..-"with God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE "and then with the same breath deny it ?

when the bible seems to contradict itself .that is a sign that we lack comprehension of it

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Maybe you would find fellow ship with atheist section.
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So because her interpretation of the bible differs from you, she belongs with the atheists? This is wrong Bluelion. In this world you are going to find plenty of fellow Christians who disagree with you on certain things, and pulling out the heretic/heresy card, and treating them like they are not brothers and sisters in Christ, is not right.