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Why do Christians hate the theory of evolution?

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99% in different places all over the world,science is missing time lines that they explain by erosion.

Problem is erosion is un even,if you look at the sides of say the grand canyon they are straight across but missing millions of years in sediments

The fact not story is well documented,it occurred at the licy shell pit in Florida.
There were hundreds of scientist's at the site.
Look it up,I don't have to, I know the crain operator who discovered it and has video to prove it.

Adaptation is due to environmental conditions,not a natural evolution from one species to another.

Old earth views never consider the flood and the erupting of water and mud sediment from the earth,nor the destruction of life on earth all at once.
Scientist would rather think a giant rock hit earth raised a dust and killed the dinosaurs.

Thanks but no need respond you have your belief and so do I but I have proof through eye witness and television of the mass grave and you have theory.

Consider this as well. Mt. St. Helens (MSH) created a canyon 1/30th the size of the Grand Canyon (GC) in only SIX DAYS. They ('they' are the pro-evolution people and/or the ones who think they are smarter and know more than the rest of us) of this world like to say the GC took millions of years to form. MSH disproves that 'theory' hands down. In fact, mile 65 to 70 of the GC disproves their thinking. Look it up- things go the wrong way and they don't know why. Interesting... and funny (to us Creationists).
 
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We did NOT evolve from animals and we in in God's image because we are tripartite beings, body/soul/spirit and God is a tripartite being, Father/Son/Holy Spirit.

I agree with you but would you say with body we are also in his image having two arms and legs the very human form is the image of God, not that we look perfectly like him but we are Human. Is not being human the very body part of the image?

Jesus came as a man, a baby through Mary. Not evolved from ape chimp or whatever, And Jesus bloodline ends with Adam.
 
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I assume you're talking about this, and it's not from Revelation as you stated:

2 Peter 3

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

...and it does not mean "us being with the Lord" as in being in the presence of the Lord. "With the Lord" means "in the attitude of the Lord", IOW as far as He is concerned, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. Verse 9 brings verse 8 into context. Matter of fact, all verses in the chapter before verse 8 bring it into context.

What other "years" would he be talking about here instead of earth years? This verse is meant to give us (earthlings) a measure of time in the Lord's eyes. Would the reader understand Jupiter years? Saturn years? No. It means years as we measure them here on earth.

I am by no means stating this verse supports TE. I am pointing out the fact that the verse as you're using it doesn't support your argument.

What Dr Ed Hindson says is it does not mean a day is a thousands earth years but what God is saying is He is not in a hurry to do things. He is patience. That is what is meant by the Bible verse you quoted and also Psalms 90:4.

I thought it was in REV i maybe wrong so i retract that, but stick to it does not mean a thousands years. I got to go with my professor on this one considering he has 7 degrees in the field.
 
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I agree with you but would you say with body we are also in his image having two arms and legs the very human form is the image of God, not that we look perfectly like him but we are Human. Is not being human the very body part of the image?
Jesus came as a man, a baby through Mary. Not evolved from ape chimp or whatever, And Jesus bloodline ends with Adam.

In the context of Genesis, we are as I said, tripartite. God was also in the fact that He said we and us, and in the reality of God/The Word/Holy Spirit.
The reality of the WORD becoming flesh as per John 1:14 makes us even more similar in that God is NOW Father/Son/Holy Spirit, as we are Soul/Body/Spirit.
Jesus was indeed born, not created, but He was born of Mary but His conception was from the SEED of the Holy Spirit. He is the one and only hypostatic being ever. A fusion if you will of God and man. Before Jesus He existed as the WORD. John 1:1
 
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In the context of Genesis, we are as I said, tripartite. God was also in the fact that He said we and us, and in the reality of God/The Word/Holy Spirit.
The reality of the WORD becoming flesh as per John 1:14 makes us even more similar in that God is NOW Father/Son/Holy Spirit, as we are Soul/Body/Spirit.
Jesus was indeed born, not created, but He was born of Mary but His conception was from the SEED of the Holy Spirit. He is the one and only hypostatic being ever. A fusion if you will of God and man. Before Jesus He existed as the WORD. John 1:1

I agree and follow you completely, But with one thing Jesus had a body before being coming as man, these are know as and angel of the lord, or commander of heaven armies, they are christonphy sorry about spelling could not figure it out. I have been taught also that when Moses saw the Lord it was Christ he saw at the burning bush. And again he came to Abraham. So Jesus has always had a body, not saying you were saying he did not, but rather that are bodies were taken from Jesus The Word, and other parts from The Father and The Holy Spirit That make up the 3 parts of the image of God.
 
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I agree and follow you completely, But with one thing Jesus had a body before being coming as man, these are know as and angel of the lord, or commander of heaven armies, they are Christophany, sorry about spelling could not figure it out. I have been taught also that when Moses saw the Lord it was Christ he saw at the burning bush. And again he came to Abraham. So Jesus has always had a body, not saying you were saying he did not, but rather that are bodies were taken from Jesus The Word, and other parts from The Father and The Holy Spirit That make up the 3 parts of the image of God.

I corrected your spelling. :) Christophany may apply to some post resurrection appearances of Jesus, I'm not sure they would apply to appearance before Jesus was even born. In either case they are non-physical manifestations.
The WORD was manifested in a human shape before Christ was born I agree. One manifestation was Melchizedek in Gen 14:18-20 and another was Gen 32:28. This is not the same as being born or becoming human.
The WORD always has been, but NOT Jesus the man. He was born, He had a beginning.
 
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Then how could He claim everything was "very good" after He was finished creating? If He used death to bring man and everything else about...

The end product (man) is very good.

The hamburger I ate today was very good. But the process in between the cow and my plate....not very pretty.
 
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I corrected your spelling. :) Christophany may apply to some post resurrection appearances of Jesus, I'm not sure they would apply to appearance before Jesus was even born. In either case they are non-physical manifestations.
The WORD was manifested in a human shape before Christ was born I agree. One manifestation was Melchizedek in Gen 14:18-20 and another was Gen 32:28. This is not the same as being born or becoming human.
The WORD always has been, but NOT Jesus the man. He was born, He had a beginning.

You mean post-incarnation, not post-resurrection, right?
 
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I agree with you but would you say with body we are also in his image having two arms and legs the very human form is the image of God, not that we look perfectly like him but we are Human. Is not being human the very body part of the image?

Jesus came as a man, a baby through Mary. Not evolved from ape chimp or whatever, And Jesus bloodline ends with Adam.


That is a good point, but I'll further elaborate A&E walked with God, spoke with God, and were consciencely aware of God.

Apes will never know God on a human conscious level. Apes can't glorify God, apes can't praise God, apes can't talk to God or pray to God.

I have no explanation for the dinosaurs because there is little to no information on them in the Bible, that revelation lies with God and God alone. But when Christ returns the last thing I am going think is dinosaurs. In fact they will probably be forgotten entirely. This world will be gone and probably all its memories too.

But there is plenty evidence that suggests man may have seen living dinosaurs.
 
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I corrected your spelling. :) Christophany may apply to some post resurrection appearances of Jesus, I'm not sure they would apply to appearance before Jesus was even born. In either case they are non-physical manifestations.
The WORD was manifested in a human shape before Christ was born I agree. One manifestation was Melchizedek in Gen 14:18-20 and another was Gen 32:28. This is not the same as being born or becoming human.
The WORD always has been, but NOT Jesus the man. He was born, He had a beginning.

I agree with exception to not being physical Jesus ate with Abraham if you remember before destroying sodom. I do agree he was not a man as after His birth from Mary. I take that back He did appear before His incarceration before birth, it was not just post resurrection as in sodom.
 
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I corrected your spelling. :) Christophany may apply to some post resurrection appearances of Jesus, I'm not sure they would apply to appearance before Jesus was even born. In either case they are non-physical manifestations.
The WORD was manifested in a human shape before Christ was born I agree. One manifestation was Melchizedek in Gen 14:18-20 and another was Gen 32:28. This is not the same as being born or becoming human.
The WORD always has been, but NOT Jesus the man. He was born, He had a beginning.
sorry a bit of topic but not off line of posting ..

slow down a bit .. this is conjecture .
we must be honest about that ,especially in regard to Melchizedek and the host of the armies of the lord and angelic beings ..

"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

God made himself manifest and he spoke and his word was manifest in a myriad of ways ..for sure . but lets be careful not to state as doctrine what we can never this side of heaven , verify . k ?
 
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I agree with exception to not being physical Jesus ate with Abraham if you remember before destroying sodom. I do agree he was not a man as after His birth from Mary. I take that back He did appear before His incarceration before birth, it was not just post resurrection as in sodom.

I don't see a difference between this appearance to Abraham here or as Melchizedek or Jacob. Eating back then was a very social aspect of life and a way to honour someone who fed you by accepting their hospitality.
Manifested doesn't not mean they aren't physical, it just means they were not born.
Jesus was the ONLY begotten(born) Son of God.
 
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sorry a bit of topic but not off line of posting ..

slow down a bit .. this is conjecture .
we must be honest about that ,especially in regard to Melchizedek and the host of the armies of the lord and angelic beings ..

"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

God made himself manifest and he spoke and his word was manifest in a myriad of ways ..for sure . but lets be careful not to state as doctrine what we can never this side of heaven , verify . k ?

Melchizedek is NOT conjecture...read Heb 7 to see the connection.

I'm not sure what you're implying by the scripture you quoted here.
 
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Melchizedek is NOT conjecture...read Heb 7 to see the connection.

I'm not sure what you're implying by the scripture you quoted here.

oh yup im aware of the connection .. but Melchizedek is likened unto Jesus as a priest with no (recorded) history of beginning or end . "like that" not actually him.
and the scripture shows the lord Jesus did not ever appear as an angel .. -thats all i was pointing out -
we better not divert from topic to much :)
 
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oh yup im aware of the connection .. but Melchizedek is likened unto Jesus as a priest with no (recorded) history of beginning or end . "like that" not actually him.
and the scripture shows the lord Jesus did not ever appear as an angel .. -thats all i was pointing out -
we better not divert from topic to much :)

That is the point. The WORD was manifested as Melchizedek in Genesis and then in Jesus, the WORD became flesh, who actually became our High Priest IN THE ORDER of Melchizedek.
 
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I don't see a difference between this appearance to Abraham here or as Melchizedek or Jacob. Eating back then was a very social aspect of life and a way to honour someone who fed you by accepting their hospitality.
Manifested doesn't not mean they aren't physical, it just means they were not born.
Jesus was the ONLY begotten(born) Son of God.

ahh got you, ok we agree. thanks
 
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