Why do Christians hate the theory of evolution?

[Bluelion]

is not theistic evolution based more on a doubt then a belief ?

I may not be able to resolve with the others in this thread, but where i would have gone with this is to the Bible. Might I suggest others point out the flaws in how they read the Bible after all the only word that changes hearts and breaks down walls is Gods word.

I see there are two problems, 1 old earth theology 2. what the Bible says Man came from dust not animals. "From dust you came and to dust you will return"

I think these points must be addressed as you can argue evolution all you want but it is still not faith, but man's understanding. If we use God's understand His word can reach a persons heart and mind and shines light in dark places.

The 6 days creation why do they believe it was longer in fact there is no evidence for 6 thousand year creation as that whole thought comes from REV which states a day with the Lord is like a thousand years. It states to us being with the Lord is like a thousand years. It does not say it is and no where does it say one day to God is a thousand earth years. In fact in REV we see Jesus ruling for a thousand years. Not a day but a thousand years it is clear.

So a day is not a thousand years on earth to God, so now we are back to 6 days. That debunks all of evolution.

I don't think they will here it, but i might suggest the first issue is the Bible and should be address.

Thank you for listing to my humble opinion. Carry on brother peace be with you.

 

[random person]

Under theistic evolution, man is made in the image of God, and animals are not.

So I'm not sure where your contention comes from. Perhaps a misunderstanding of what TE's believe?

Only man is conscious of its creator and is capable of seeking Him.

God created man in His image NOT in the image of animals.

 

[Sayre]

Only man is conscious of its creator and is capable of seeking Him.

God created man in His image NOT in the image of animals.

Yeah and? Both sides of this debate agree on this issue.

 

[Bluelion]

Yeah and? Both sides of this debate agree on this issue.

Oh you are here are you just going to accuse me and then not answer my reply?

Ok fair enough you don't want to have a discussion with me that is fine, but please don't make comments about my post if your not going to discuss it.

 

[Sayre]

Oh you are here are you just going to accuse me and then not answer my reply?

Ok fair enough you don't want to have a discussion with me that is fine, but please don't make comments about my post if your not going to discuss it.

What on earth are you talking about? The quote you replied to was to another poster - not to yourself.

 

[Bluelion]

What on earth are you talking about? The quote you replied to was to another poster - not to yourself.

I was responding how you accused me and I address that and you did not address it but went on commenting on others post. to which i said what I said.

 

[JGiddings]

 

[Alithis]

here ..take the whistle ..i aint refereeing this match any more haha

 

[Alithis]

is not theistic evolution based more on a doubt then a belief ?

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[now faith]

Yes, I have. Have you? If so, you believe in evolution, because adaptation changes organisms' traits over time, which is what evolution is.



Yes, I have. Have you? If so, please see above response!



99.99% of the earth's crust will show you this!



Not sure what you're asking here...carbon dating uses the decay of carbon. So...yes?



Please reference me to where you read this story.



Oh, but I do! I assure you, my belief in science does not even quiver my faith in God.

99% in different places all over the world,science is missing time lines that they explain by erosion.

Problem is erosion is un even,if you look at the sides of say the grand canyon they are straight across but missing millions of years in sediments

The fact not story is well documented,it occurred at the licy shell pit in Florida.
There were hundreds of scientist's at the site.
Look it up,I don't have to, I know the crain operator who discovered it and has video to prove it.

Adaptation is due to environmental conditions,not a natural evolution from one species to another.

Old earth views never consider the flood and the erupting of water and mud sediment from the earth,nor the destruction of life on earth all at once.
Scientist would rather think a giant rock hit earth raised a dust and killed the dinosaurs.

Thanks but no need respond you have your belief and so do I but I have proof through eye witness and television of the mass grave and you have theory.

 

[Alithis]

99% in different places all over the world,science is missing time lines that they explain by erosion.

Problem is erosion is un even,if you look at the sides of say the grand canyon they are straight across but missing millions of years in sediments

The fact not story is well documented,it occurred at the licy shell pit in Florida.
There were hundreds of scientist's at the site.
Look it up,I don't have to, I know the crain operator who discovered it and has video to prove it.

Adaptation is due to environmental conditions,not a natural evolution from one species to another.

Old earth views never consider the flood and the erupting of water and mud sediment from the earth,nor the destruction of life on earth all at once.
Scientist would rather think a giant rock hit earth raised a dust and killed the dinosaurs.

Thanks but no need respond you have your belief and so do I but I have proof through eye witness and television of the mass grave and you have theory.

but but but ..can i have some links please lol im interested .
.. ouh i know its been done before im sure but i want to start a thread on the firmament.. separating the waters above from the waters below ...

is it the land between the sea and the springs of the deep ..??

or "was it" an all encasing bubble of water around the earth (the perfect green house deflecting harmful sun causing man to live (if uninterrupted by sin.. ) endlessly. it did not rain but dew rose up from the earth and watered it -the lessening of the years of man begins in earnest .. after the flood and later god decrees a cap on it .

 

[classicalhero]

Yeah and? Both sides of this debate agree on this issue.

How can we be in the image of God if we evolved from animals?

 

[Sayre]

How can we be in the image of God if we evolved from animals?

Because of the image of God is not about our physical make up. It's about our spiritual make up.

We don't all look like Jesus (who I presume looks like a 30 year old middle eastern male. But we are all in the image of Jesus. The fact that even Adam and Eve were not perfect copies of the same mould tells us that it can't be about biology that makes us in the image of God.

But we all have a sense of the divine. We all have His breath in us (or we did before the fall!). That is what makes us in His image. No other animal has that - none of the apes have it either .

TE's don't imply that apes are made in the image of God, or that humans aren't made in the image of God.

 

[stan1953]

How can we be in the image of God if we evolved from animals?

We did NOT evolve from animals and we in in God's image because we are tripartite beings, body/soul/spirit and God is a tripartite being, Father/Son/Holy Spirit.

 

[Alithis]

We did NOT evolve from animals and we in in God's image because we are tripartite beings, body/soul/spirit and God is a tripartite being, Father/Son/Holy Spirit.

Agreed .. nor should we lower ourselves to behave in the base manner of the beasts of the field .

 

[standingtall]

The 6 days creation why do they believe it was longer in fact there is no evidence for 6 thousand year creation as that whole thought comes from REV which states a day with the Lord is like a thousand years. It states to us being with the Lord is like a thousand years. It does not say it is and no where does it say one day to God is a thousand earth years.

I assume you're talking about this, and it's not from Revelation as you stated:

2 Peter 3

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

...and it does not mean "us being with the Lord" as in being in the presence of the Lord. "With the Lord" means "in the attitude of the Lord", IOW as far as He is concerned, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. Verse 9 brings verse 8 into context. Matter of fact, all verses in the chapter before verse 8 bring it into context.

What other "years" would he be talking about here instead of earth years? This verse is meant to give us (earthlings) a measure of time in the Lord's eyes. Would the reader understand Jupiter years? Saturn years? No. It means years as we measure them here on earth.

I am by no means stating this verse supports TE. I am pointing out the fact that the verse as you're using it doesn't support your argument.

 

[chiwawa]

How can we be in the image of God if we evolved from animals?

We are not in the physical image of God. I'm sorry, but God does not look like a human. Why would God need reproductive organs? Or ANY organs btw?

We are in the spiritual image of God. That is what separates us from the rest.

 

[Metal Minister]

We are not in the physical image of God. I'm sorry, but God does not look like a human. Why would God need reproductive organs? Or ANY organs btw?

We are in the spiritual image of God. That is what separates us from the rest.

Ah, but HE is physical, because He came to earth as a human. This gave God a physical form. (Not entirely obviously as Jesus was only 1/3 of the trinity) Do you think God waited around for a few billion years for us to evolve so He could put a soul into us?

 

[chiwawa]

Ah, but HE is physical, because He came to earth as a human. This gave God a physical form. (Not entirely obviously as Jesus was only 1/3 of the trinity) Do you think God waited around for a few billion years for us to evolve so He could put a soul into us?

Yes I do. Because that is not a long wait for Him.

 

[Metal Minister]

Yes I do. Because that is not a long wait for Him.

Then how could He claim everything was "very good" after He was finished creating? If He used death to bring man and everything else about...