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From my perception, and I think it is a correct one; protestant, Evangelical, Mormon, and Jehovas Witness child molestation cases are always page B2 in the local papers while Catholic child molestation cases are always A1 front page national headlines.
Apparently, claims against other denominations don't shock or sell.
Three or so years ago there was a Mormon case in Sacramento in the local section and a few days later a Mormon lady's letter to the editor followed. She questioned why the paper had to list the name of the Temple or Mormonism in the article. You believe she would write such a letter or express a similar opinion if it had been front page RCC ?
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I thinks it's like others have already said ... the Catholic Church is seen &/or professes that She should be seen as THE moral authority. And when you have such heinous sins and abuses by members of such authority, then the scandal is even greater. The Catholic Church is held, and rightly so, to a higher standard. Not that individual Priests and Bishops don't sin ... but that they are expected to do better.
Plus you have secular or liberal interests who seek to discredit the Church.
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since we're not minding our own business, consider that if something to this effect happens in at Lutheran Church, and it's reported in the news, an independant Baptist or a Presbyterian Church/congregation isn't going to consider it their problem. They're not unified in that respect, they only respect unity with one another when they agree. With the Catholic church we're all one so it's all of ours problem.
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i don't think that was directed at you, there were some prestanding (now resolved) issues before you joined us. i think perhaps there is something you would like to discuss, perhaps you could open up a thread...
que Dios te bendiga
i don't think that was directed at you, there were some prestanding (now resolved) issues before you joined us. i think perhaps there is something you would like to discuss, perhaps you could open up a thread...
que Dios te bendiga
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helenofbritain
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So do I, but not in this context. Every time you see it it means I'm working.
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And how was it uncalled for?
Did I debate? No. Did I say that Roman Catholicism is wrong? No. Did I suggest anything that runs counter to Roman Catholic teaching? No.
This, coming from the girl who says that asking a question is "debating".
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I read this as saying the reports were uncalled for, and those making the reports were unaware of what debating was (and that included myself).
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"All of your posts" is not an example.
If you can't give an example, I understand. That seems to be about par for the course here.
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As other have aptly stated, the issue here is not, for reasonable people, the fact that some priests wind up being child molesters. That's bound to happen occasionally in any organization that involves work with children, unfortunately. It's problem amongst school teachers also. The issue that sets the Roman Catholic molestation scandal apart is that, when the abuse was uncovered and brought to the attention of the bishop, in many dioceses these priests had their abuses covered up and then were systematically reassigned to new parishes where they abused more children. Sometimes some similar stuff happens in Protestant circles, but there usually isn't this bishop figure, who should know better, doing it systematically, it's often John Smith the engineer who works as a plumber during the day trying to make a quick decision to remove the pastor and not thinking through that he might resurface elsewhere. And I think that does make a difference in the popular mind. I don't think one has to be anti-Catholic to feel that the abuse scandal in the Church was a little different than the average abuse scandal.
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Originally Posted by WarEagle
OK. Go ahead and make your stupid false accusations.
I trust that anyone reading this post will see that I did not say that it's worse when a Roman Catholic does it.
Funny how you can judge someone as "stupid" but hate the words "Mo" and "Ron"
Boys play nice...Keep your petty battles to yourselves..Do you realize spiritual maturity or the lack of it can show up in what you post..grace and peace to you..
Originally Posted by WarEagle
OK. Go ahead and make your stupid false accusations.
I trust that anyone reading this post will see that I did not say that it's worse when a Roman Catholic does it.
Funny how you can judge someone as "stupid" but hate the words "Mo" and "Ron"
Boys play nice...Keep your petty battles to yourselves..Do you realize spiritual maturity or the lack of it can show up in what you post..grace and peace to you..
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Help me understand why YOU were accused of debating, I judged you had NOT been debating,,, and yet you are still unhappy?
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DLF, I don't want to bring your heartrate up 
I just can't continue to derail this thread. I promise to do my best.
As for the OP, I think the news didn't blow up because of many of the other reasons stated and also because lately the 'hot' news now has much more to do with wildfires and Spears/Federline. It's just a wierd demographic that is being reported to right now.
I also think it would blow up, if the church that the pedophile was at had another pedophile in their ranks and it came to light soon after. Sort of like the dominoe affect that happened with the Catholic Church.
I just can't continue to derail this thread. I promise to do my best.
As for the OP, I think the news didn't blow up because of many of the other reasons stated and also because lately the 'hot' news now has much more to do with wildfires and Spears/Federline. It's just a wierd demographic that is being reported to right now.
I also think it would blow up, if the church that the pedophile was at had another pedophile in their ranks and it came to light soon after. Sort of like the dominoe affect that happened with the Catholic Church.
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