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I guess it operates like a computer program. It has laws in place called physics but He can override them for His purposes. It's like we're in God's video game and He set us in here as characters in the game.

Let proposition P1 = We are living in the matrix.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on P1?

Aha! Ok. It's tough to put a number on it because I don't have all the answers and am still figuring all this stuff out. But there are a lot of clues around. And even the bible seems to support some aspects of this loose theory.

According to Scientific American there is definitely a larger and unseen reality.

That's what the bible has been saying all along.
We are seated in heavenly places with the Lord right now.
Fear not be not afraid.
Look to the unseen.
Have faith...

So the longer I think on these things th more weightier they get. But in an effort to answer your question...let's say, 7 or 8 right now? There is still much missing data!
 
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I guess it operates like a computer program. It has laws in place called physics but He can override them for His purposes. It's like we're in God's video game and He set us in here as characters in the game.


So the longer I think on these things th more weightier they get. But in an effort to answer your question...let's say, 7 or 8 right now? There is still much missing data!

Define the matrix as a digital projection of what we call our reality.

Let proposition P1 = We are living in the matrix.
P2 = We are not living in the matrix.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on P1 and P2?
 
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Define the matrix as a digital projection of what we call our reality.

Let proposition P1 = We are living in the matrix.
P2 = We are not living in the matrix.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on P1 and P2?

Are you not understanding me?

P1.....7 or 8

P2...0

Something is going on and that's for sure. It is the unseen world like scripture says.
 
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That would be Psalms.

It's what I thought. You do not read it anymore so your knowledge of it since you stopped reading has been usurped by others opinions.

Every single subject is cvered in the Bible. Now please don't be stupid and ask where it says cell phones or something like that. We're talking about biblical principles. It's all in there and jus tremember...you chose to be born where you were...

Now please don't disprove my ridiculous assertion that every single subject is covered in the Bible by asking about cell phones or something like that
 
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Are you willing to bet based on your weighting scheme?

I'm not really a betting man. I bet I havent spent more than $20 in my life on lotto. Sometimes I'll get a ticket when the jackpot gets way up there.

Besides is a 7 or 8 enough to bet on? We don't know. Because there is too many unanswered questions still. That's enough unknowns to conceal a very large mistake on my part if I aint careful, lol.

SO, no. No bet. I prolly have it partially right with the combination of things I've read and the big pig picture. I'm no scientist or Elijah. So it's prolly that I might even have a P1=4 instead of 8 considering my possible mistakes? I wont bet on a 4. I wont bet on an 8!!

So did you take the red pill or blue pill?
 
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Now please don't disprove my ridiculous assertion that every single subject is covered in the Bible by asking about cell phones or something like that

Right. Biblical principles can be applied to any situation in life where a decision is required to be made.

That's why it's important to read the bible for yourself a lot. So you get all the principles digested.
 
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Now please don't disprove my ridiculous assertion that every single subject is covered in the Bible by asking about cell phones or something like that

Ok I see what you did now. The coffee must be kicking in. It's not a ridiculous assertion. They teach us better than that on my side of the tracks, lol.

A lot of biblical principles are slso found in Proverbs. But I guess that's fooishness to you also, lol! Oh if you could only read!
 
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I don't bet as a rule.
That's up to you if you do not want to put money where your mouth is. I don't gamble at all but I do bet on my words to scientifically demonstrate the strength of my beliefs.
 
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This is not a lotto/gambling bet. This is a bet to scientifically measure the strength of your belief. Put money where your mouth is.

I told you that I'm neither a scientist or a scholar. Just some guy jawin on the internet. So I'm not being dogmatic and don't want to bet, and we are in the same boat on earth. I made a pretty good point that scripture can be construed to back my "theory" up. It can't be more than theory to me because I am nobody. I've never even played a scientist on TV!

But don't you think it's rather significant that a secular scientific magazine says, the scientists can prove there is an unseen aspect of reality that we are somewhat restrained from seeing.

And my point, Isn't that what the Scriptures say? You bet it does. Do you want me to post these scriptures for you?

If I;'m nutty as a fruit cake then explain the scripture to me what it means that, we are seated in heavenly places with the Lord?
 
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That's up to you if you do not want to put money where your mouth is. I don't gamble at all but I do bet on my words to scientifically demonstrate the strength of my beliefs.

From what I've read of your posts, you havent stated your beliefs yet. All you do is ask questions, lol.
 
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That's up to you if you do not want to put money where your mouth is. I don't gamble at all but I do bet on my words to scientifically demonstrate the strength of my beliefs.

That might be a mistake. Do we agree that scripture say the carnal man can not understand or receive scripture for it is foolishness to him?

IOW, you can't demonstrate the bible scientifically. But the Bible confirms a lot of science. We are instrructed to be mindful of the Kingdom of God and think on heavenly things. And that's all I'm doing.

So we have to approach reading the bible spiritually. Don't read it from your carnal man, logic and reason. Read it from your spirit and thereby consider the larger portion of reality.
 
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Ok I see what you did now. The coffee must be kicking in. It's not a ridiculous assertion. They teach us better than that on my side of the tracks, lol.

A lot of biblical principles are slso found in Proverbs. But I guess that's fooishness to you also, lol! Oh if you could only read!

Does the Bible say anything about, for example, the NFL

If not then not every subject is covered in the Bible
 
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So we have to approach reading the bible spiritually. Don't read it from your carnal man, logic and reason. Read it from your spirit and thereby consider the larger portion of reality.
Why not use both logic and spirit?
 
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