Why Did D. M. Canright leave the Seventh-Day Adventists?

[Saint Steven]

not helpful, To be clear. I am not sure if you are for or against D.M. Canright or is this about the origins of sunday pagan worship?

I agree with the D.M. Canright article. It proves that the common claim against Sunday is erroneous.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I agree with the D.M. Canright article. It proves that the common claim against Sunday is erroneous.

No it doesn't brother Steve. The OP is a strawman argument that no one is saying. Who is telling you that Sun whorshippers gathered on Sunday to worship? If no one has said this why pretend that they have? This has been shown in many posts on the first page including posts # 13; post # 14 and post # 15 linked which shows the origin of Sun worship and the pagan naming for the days of the week.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

No it doesn't brother Steve. The OP is a strawman argument that no one is saying. Who is telling you that Sun whorshippers gathered on Sunday to worship? If no one has said this why pretend that they have? This has been shown in many posts on the first page including posts # 13; post # 14 and post # 15 linked which shows the origin of Sun worship and the pagan naming for the days of the week.

That is the claim of SDA's that Sunday is the pagan Sabbath and replaced the TRUE SABBATH and constitutes False worship.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

That is the claim of SDA's that Sunday is the pagan Sabbath and replaced the TRUE SABBATH and constitutes False worship.

Actually no. The OP's claim and argument is....

"How could Sunday worship have come from paganism, when Sunday was never a pagan holiday?"

This is a claim that no one is arguing therefore a strawman argument.

This has been shown in many posts on the first page including posts # 13; post # 14 and post # 15 linked which shows the origin of Sun worship and the pagan naming for the days of the week. It has nothing to do with if Sun worshippers gathered on Sunday to worship the sun.

It is the origin of the naming of the days of the week that has it's origin in paganism and that includes Sunday where the Romans did the naming of these days that has it's origin from Sun worship of the Roman Sun God (Roman Sun worship linked).

There is no scripture in all of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and tradition of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Who should we believe and follow God or man? *ACTS 5:29; ROMANS 3:4

Hope this helps.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

same thing holy day/ holiday

 

[LoveGodsWord]

same thing holy day/ holiday

Actually no a Holy day is not a holiday

 

[Saint Steven]

The names for the days of the week were named after the planets and sun.
The names of the planets were in reference to the gods.
So, the connection is indirect and meaningless.
The name of your day of worship does not determine which god you are worshiping.

If you went to church on Saturday, would you be worshiping Saturn? (nope)
Now apply that to Sunday.

 

[BibleloverBill]

Everything is free--
1.) about the Sabbath-- https://www.box.com/s/76fdd30db8b26be34185
Note: The "1--" and "2--" items are what I considered the best.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The names for the days of the week were named after the planets and sun.
The names of the planets were in reference to the gods.
So, the connection is indirect and meaningless.
The name of your day of worship does not determine which god you are worshiping.

Sorry Steve the connections are not meaningless because they are showing that the naming of the days of the week have their origin in paganism and pagan God worship. As you have agreed in your own post already, each day of the week is representative to a pagan God that represents that day. The point of the earlier post was to show that the Roman naming of the weekdays have their origin in paganism. This supports what is being said. Sunday was named in honor of the pagan Sun God that has it's origin in Sun worship as shown in the linked posts on page 1 (posts 13, 14, 15) from ancient bible cultures and cultures from all around the world.

If you went to church on Saturday, would you be worshiping Saturn? (nope) Now apply that to Sunday.

This one is easy. Those who follow God's WORD ignore paganism. There is no scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day. This is a teaching and tradition of men that has led many to break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Who should we believe and follow God or man? *ACTS 5:29; ROMANS 3:4

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

 

[Saint Steven]

That's a strawman argument.
I'm not claiming that Sunday is a Holy Day, nor that it is a replacement for the Sabbath.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

That's a strawman argument.
I'm not claiming that Sunday is a Holy Day, nor that it is a replacement for the Sabbath.

Then is there any excuse for not keeping the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH Holy as God commanded us in the 4th commandment of the 10 *EXODUS 20:8-11 that give us a knowledge of what sin is if broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7?

 

[1stcenturylady]

I agree with the D.M. Canright article. It proves that the common claim against Sunday is erroneous.

The Epistle of Barnabas was read in all the churches and one of the reasons why the early church worshiped on the 1st day of the week (or the eighth day of creation).

Barnabas 15:1
Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten
Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And
ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a
pure heart.

Barnabas 15:2
And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then
I will bestow My mercy upon them.

Barnabas 15:3
Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And
God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the
seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He
meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all
things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years;
and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of
the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six
days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

Barnabas 15:5
And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son
shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall
judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the
stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day.

Barnabas 15:6
Yea and furthermore He saith; Thou shalt hallow it with pure hands
and with a pure heart. If therefore a man is able now to hallow
the day which God hallowed, though he be pure in heart, we have gone
utterly astray.

Barnabas 15:7
But if after all then and not till then shall we truly rest and
hallow it, when we shall ourselves be able to do so after being
justified and receiving the promise, when iniquity is no more and all
things have been made new by the Lord, we shall be able to hallow it
then, because we ourselves shall have been hallowed first.

Barnabas 15:8
Finally He saith to them; Your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot
away with. Ye see what is His meaning ; it is not your present
Sabbaths that are acceptable [unto Me], but the Sabbath which I have
made, in the which, when I have set all things at rest, I will make
the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another
world.

Barnabas 15:9
Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which
also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested ascended
into the heavens.

 

[Saint Steven]

The Sabbath was given to the Israelites alone through Moses.
The Sabbath is not for Christians.

We are not under any of the law that God gave to the Israelites alone through Moses.

John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

 

[Saint Steven]

Barnabas 15:9
Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which
also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested ascended
into the heavens.

There you go. They can't pin that on the Catholic Church.
Do you have the writing date for that? Thanks.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The Epistle of Barnabas was read in all the churches and one of the reasons why the early church worshiped on the 1st day of the week (or the eighth day of creation).

Barnabas 15:1
Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten
Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And
ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a
pure heart.

Barnabas 15:2
And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then
I will bestow My mercy upon them.

Barnabas 15:3
Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And
God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the
seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He
meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all
things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years;
and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of
the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six
days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

Barnabas 15:5
And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son
shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall
judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the
stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day.

Barnabas 15:6
Yea and furthermore He saith; Thou shalt hallow it with pure hands
and with a pure heart. If therefore a man is able now to hallow
the day which God hallowed, though he be pure in heart, we have gone
utterly astray.

Barnabas 15:7
But if after all then and not till then shall we truly rest and
hallow it, when we shall ourselves be able to do so after being
justified and receiving the promise, when iniquity is no more and all
things have been made new by the Lord, we shall be able to hallow it
then, because we ourselves shall have been hallowed first.

Barnabas 15:8
Finally He saith to them; Your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot
away with. Ye see what is His meaning ; it is not your present
Sabbaths that are acceptable [unto Me], but the Sabbath which I have
made, in the which, when I have set all things at rest, I will make
the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another
world.

Barnabas 15:9
Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which
also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested ascended
into the heavens.

Actually no. The OP's claim and argument is....

"How could Sunday worship have come from paganism, when Sunday was never a pagan holiday?"

This is a claim that no one is arguing therefore a strawman argument.

This has been shown in many posts on the first page including posts # 13; post # 14 and post # 15 linked which shows the origin of Sun worship and the pagan naming for the days of the week. It has nothing to do with if Sun worshippers gathered on Sunday to worship the sun.

It is the origin of the naming of the days of the week that has it's origin in paganism and that includes Sunday where the Romans did the naming of these days that has it's origin from Sun worship (Roman Sun worship linked).

There is no scripture in all of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished as we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and tradition of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Who should we believe and follow God or man? *ACTS 5:29; ROMANS 3:4

Hope this helps.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The Sabbath was given to the Israelites alone through Moses.The Sabbath is not for Christians.

We are not under any of the law that God gave to the Israelites alone through Moses.

John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Actaully no not at all. God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVEANT is the Church. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:7-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27.

Hope this helps.

 

[Saint Steven]

We were grafted in after Israel was removed.
We have nothing to do with those who were removed.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Actually no. The OP's claim and argument is....

"How could Sunday worship have come from paganism, when Sunday was never a pagan holiday?"

This is a claim that no one is arguing therefore a strawman argument.

This has been shown in many posts on the first page including posts # 13; post # 14 and post # 15 linked which shows the origin of Sun worship and the pagan naming for the days of the week. It has nothing to do with if Sun worshippers gathered on Sunday to worship the sun.

It is the origin of the naming of the days of the week that has it's origin in paganism and that includes Sunday where the Romans did the naming of these days that has it's origin from Sun worship (Roman Sun worship linked).

There is no scripture in all of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment has now been abolished as we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and tradition of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Who should we believe and follow God or man? *ACTS 5:29; ROMANS 3:4

Hope this helps.

I just shared my knowledge. I couldn't care less about sun gods as they had nothing to do with worshiping on Sunday.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

We were grafted in after Israel was removed.
We have nothing to do with those who were removed.

Not really Steve, God's WORD says that only the UNBELIEVERS in ISRAEL were the branches that were broken off not the BELIEVERS *ROMANS 11:13-27.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I just shared my knowledge. I couldn't care less about sun gods as they had nothing to do with worshiping on Sunday.

Your knowledge is not God's WORD. Who should we believe and follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men over the Word of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.