Here's a question: why create a universe? And why create life, specifically human beings, on planet earth?
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Why Create a Universe?
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Boredom?
I think that the standard answer is something like "to give glory to God". IOWs, God "needs" someone to sing his praises, if God can be said to need anything at all. No, that never really made sense to me.
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I think you're coming at this believing that God doesn't exist. Suppose for a moment that God does exist, and then reconsider the question.
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It's sort of like my wife asking me "Why do you love me?".
It's not a question that can be answered on behalf of someone. Someone can't walk over and begin rattling off definitive reasons without getting some form of response from me
(which can come in form of a backhanded slap, just to add some humor)
So, why would you want an answer from a third party on that one, if indeed you get to believe that God exists and it created the Universe for some "why" type of reason?
It's not a question that can be answered on behalf of someone. Someone can't walk over and begin rattling off definitive reasons without getting some form of response from me
(which can come in form of a backhanded slap, just to add some humor)So, why would you want an answer from a third party on that one, if indeed you get to believe that God exists and it created the Universe for some "why" type of reason?
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You may be right, but what is God supposed to get out of that? The correct answer along those lines would seem to be for God "to have fellowship with human beings".
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I believe that might be correct. If I were God I would want someone to have fellowship with. Eternity in solitary confinement does not seem appealing to me. Why do we have children. I do not mean as a species in some survival mode but as individuals why do we want to do it? The Catholic Church's catechism that i was forced to memorize early on in my life had a very simple answer: Question: Why did God make us ? Answer: He made us to love us. Now that is my perspective but not being God I can't vouch for its veracity in terms of echoing his sentiments.
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Which didn't yet exist in order to be needy, so he created them? That seems a bit backwards.
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That sounds more reasonable than the "to give glory to God" idea.
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That implies that God wanted or needed somebody to love. (I can't help thinking of the old Jefferson Airplane song, btw.
) Which raises a question about God's nature. The Abrahamic God is generally described as a perfect entity. And not just morally perfect, but perfect in every conceivable way. (If you studied Catholicism, then you know God's absolute perfection was the basis of St. Anselm's ontologic argument for God's existence.) If this is true, then why would such an entity need or want to love someone? A being of total and utter perfection would have no needs or wants of any kind, and would have no reason to do anything at all--let alone create an entire universe, and all the living things in it.
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Looks to me like God is trying to gather together for himself a group of individuals who chose to follow Him and his nature despite being born with a bad disposition and being completely surrounded by people of a polar opposite nature.
An analogy I have is that of bootcamp. In that first period after enlisting, a cadet is put through a series of tests that are very uncomfortable. They seem to have no purpose but ask any officer and they will tell you the tests are designed to make you like the sargent.
An analogy I have is that of bootcamp. In that first period after enlisting, a cadet is put through a series of tests that are very uncomfortable. They seem to have no purpose but ask any officer and they will tell you the tests are designed to make you like the sargent.
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