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"For some Christian creationists, the scientific theory of evolution is an existential threat to their faith—one they feel they must publicly oppose. “There is a war in society,” writes Ken Ham, the founder of Kentucky’s Creation Museum, in an excerpt of his book. “The essence of the conflict lies firmly at the foundational level—creation versus evolution.”
Some Muslims Don’t Believe in Evolution Either. Why Are Christians So Much More Zealous About It?
I disagree with you, but not because you think I don't have a "comprehension of the Bible," but it's because I have fully comprehended the Bible, that I disagree with you. Don't forget, I used to be a "Christian."No, I find continued conversation meaningless when there is no agreement on the parameters of reality. To be blunt, the unsaved have no comprehension of the Bible. To understand the why you need to know the who, and you have no concept of God. Your opinion of reality includes the natural and excludes the supernatural, which is actually the greatest part of reality.
Who called you a Christian, you or Christ?Don't forget, I used to be a "Christian."
Still, you skate pretty close to it by defining that personal relationship as the "born again" experience beloved of Evangelicals. Speaking globally, most Christians (including me) find their personal experience of Christ in the Eucharist.Who called you a Christian, you or Christ?
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more that going to the market makes you a vegetable. The real question is, were you born again? If you never had a personal relationship with the Lord and were called a Christian because your parents were Christians, you lived in a Christian home and went to a Christian church, then you were never a Christian. You never had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Once someone encounters the Holy Spirit and has direct contact with God through the Holy Spirit, I find it very difficult to believe they would reject it all in favor of choosing to believe that none of it actually happened.
And before you hit the report button, it's against forum rules to say that a person who identifies themselves as Christian is not one. I made no such claim. You did.
This is exactly what I used to say, when I was a Christian!Who called you a Christian, you or Christ?
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more that going to the market makes you a vegetable. The real question is, were you born again? If you never had a personal relationship with the Lord and were called a Christian because your parents were Christians, you lived in a Christian home and went to a Christian church, then you were never a Christian. You never had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Once someone encounters the Holy Spirit and has direct contact with God through the Holy Spirit, I find it very difficult to believe they would reject it all in favor of choosing to believe that none of it actually happened.
Jason Lisle
1. If the Bible were not true, logic would not be meaningful.
2. Logic is meaningful.
3. Therefore, the Bible is true.
—Jason Lisle
Jason Lisle - RationalWiki
"Most of Lisle's points just begin with the claim that the Bible must be true, cannot change and so can explain everything and he's no stranger to wall-bangingly circular logic. It shouldn't need to be stated that this is the opposite of what a good scientist should do. So, while he may be a published and qualified scientist, the remarks he makes regarding creationism aren't actually very scientific - indeed, for AiG to use him as a leading scientist is practically a sham, as it leads their audiences to think that his ideas - which aren't really his ideas, just the same old tired arguments - automatically have credibility due to his real PhD. Although he has done research with genuine merit into the sun's heliosphere, Lisle has yet to perform, let alone publish, credible work into starlight or creationism."
This dude wouldn't know logic if it crap on his face and T-bag him to death
Jason Lisle
1. If the Bible were not true, logic would not be meaningful.
2. Logic is meaningful.
3. Therefore, the Bible is true.
—Jason Lisle
Jason Lisle - RationalWiki
"Most of Lisle's points just begin with the claim that the Bible must be true, cannot change and so can explain everything and he's no stranger to wall-bangingly circular logic. It shouldn't need to be stated that this is the opposite of what a good scientist should do. So, while he may be a published and qualified scientist, the remarks he makes regarding creationism aren't actually very scientific - indeed, for AiG to use him as a leading scientist is practically a sham, as it leads their audiences to think that his ideas - which aren't really his ideas, just the same old tired arguments - automatically have credibility due to his real PhD. Although he has done research with genuine merit into the sun's heliosphere, Lisle has yet to perform, let alone publish, credible work into starlight or creationism."
This dude wouldn't know logic if it crap on his face and T-bag him to death
Jason Lisle
1. If the Bible were not true, logic would not be meaningful.
2. Logic is meaningful.
3. Therefore, the Bible is true.
—Jason Lisle
Jason Lisle - RationalWiki
"Most of Lisle's points just begin with the claim that the Bible must be true, cannot change and so can explain everything and he's no stranger to wall-bangingly circular logic. It shouldn't need to be stated that this is the opposite of what a good scientist should do. So, while he may be a published and qualified scientist, the remarks he makes regarding creationism aren't actually very scientific - indeed, for AiG to use him as a leading scientist is practically a sham, as it leads their audiences to think that his ideas - which aren't really his ideas, just the same old tired arguments - automatically have credibility due to his real PhD. Although he has done research with genuine merit into the sun's heliosphere, Lisle has yet to perform, let alone publish, credible work into starlight or creationism."
This dude wouldn't know logic if it crap on his face and T-bag him to death
Dr. Lisle is saying some pretty amazing stuff. Is he lying? Or are they all true?
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."Still, you skate pretty close to it by defining that personal relationship as the "born again" experience beloved of Evangelicals. Speaking globally, most Christians (including me) find their personal experience of Christ in the Eucharist.
It's a good idea, too--as long as you don't claim it can only happen in your church or only in the way that it happens in your church.John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
I wonder where we ever got that idea?
Never said that.It's a good idea, too--as long as you don't claim it can only happen in your church or only in the way that it happens in your church.
That's the way it works for all Christians, even Christians who are not YECs. Like it or not.Never said that.
It happens that way in the Scriptures.
Therefore, that's the way it works, like it or not.
Dr. Lisle is giving straight up facts. Unlike the fallacy of evolution..
False dichotomy (which is kind of ironic because Lisle tossed out accusations of logical fallacies like beads at Mardi Gras.Dr. Lisle is saying some pretty amazing stuff. Is he lying? Or are they all true?
Dr. Lisle is giving straight up facts. Unlike the fallacy of evolution..
... and history class.
Ever heard of Judas Iscariot?
Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.Creationism should be kept out of history class too imo because it's not history either. At least not a 7 day creation week that only took place 6,000 years ago.
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