Isaiah 45 says that God creates peace and evil. Likewise the old testament seems to attribute everything to God. Even satan is portrayed as merely serving God to test and torment people like Job.
Jesus too pointed out that there would be DIVISION in THIS world FIRST before there was unity in God [Love] and peace in the New Earth :-
Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
even the new earth has war as soon as the many and Satan are released from hell and death [Rev 20:13]
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
Rev 20:7 And
when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Then Jesus comes along and tells us God is Love, but that only certain people are foreknown from the foundations of earth and predestined to be saved and from there many of his disciples drew back. Personally I think the predestination speech was just a test.
I think that you simply misunderstood ... the FEW are just the firstfruit saints who will RULE and minister in the kingdom , so they must go first ,for they need to be perfect BEFORE the release of the many from death and hell [Rev 20:13] and they are not all perfect in love even by the time of Jesus' return ... Jesus ahs to return early else NO-ONE would be saved from the worldwide church of sinners under Satan, the whole earth worshipping the wrong image of God createdbty Satan and his army of sinner priests for the masses -Rev 13:3-4 :-
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days,
no flesh should be saved: but for the elects sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
thus it is absurd to judge God , but especially so if one does not read and understand scripture His way , not the way sinners put upon it worldwide in mass religion of sinners led astray by sinners , not by saints... the words of saints in scripture are thus rather precious these days , and they say God ALONE will teach all that are His , none under grace will teach one another - Heb 8:8-12 - compare that to the mass churches of sinners
do a COUNT as well , compare the 144,000 saints , the few who find the way now [Matt 7:14, Rev 7:3-8, Jude 1:14] with the mass chuches of traditions of men [still sinners by admission, even their priests] ... realise that of the 144,000 saints only soe 2000 can be alive at any one time because the church of God never dies out in this earth, despite the terrible attrition of saints by secular authorities, and by the churches of sinners [such as throwing Christian Hebrew saints to the lions in Rome, the Inquisition and the 'Holocaust' to quote only a few extreme examples of mass slaughter of the saints of God alongside others by authority of sinners claiming authority in place of God to murder in attempt to silence opposition ]
If have choice then God ideally wanted the best for us, but Adam sinned. If it was "written" then Adam was "scripted" to sin and God intentionally made many, but only wanted to save a few, and make everyone else burn forever in a lake of magma.
God's truth is a fire, but it is never said to be magma , even though certainly there is magma and worse in the end of THIS earth illustrating that God was right, sin does not lead to happiness of men but to disaster...
but you are seriously mistaken, only sinners accuse Adam of sin , the scripture never does [and he may have sinned as many do, but scripture does not say he did] ...
for the absolutely crucial point of teh story of Adam is that Adam is INNOCENT until receiving the knowledge of good and evil from the tree AFTER eating its 'fruit' ... no-one is guilty who does not know God's law , so Adam brought us that guiltiness by taking teh knowledge of good and evil, he did no sin in that as he [alone] was innocent in that case ...
so it it crucial to check that teh scripture NEVER says he sinned, only that he brought us sin because we KNOW when we sin , our conscience tells us, our heart of love tells us when we are unloving [breaking God's law of love] , our spirit reminds us what is good and what is evil, our body feels dead when we sin, alive when we love...
our mind shows us in the world that it is falling apart because of OUR evil sin against one another in our way of life following sinners as secular and religious leaders in place of God and Christ [ e.g. Vicarius Filii Dei , in place of the son of God , same as 'antichristos' in Greek , in place of Christ ... so who needs a sinner man in place of Christ when we have Christ there
I don't believe God is a monster, so I'm just going to take all the foreknow, predestined, preordained, elitist stuff as comforting words to every aspirant of the Bible, but not as meaning there won't be trials, tests, and things to learn along the way or that every saved person is going to be some successful person always blessed in life and who never falls into any kind of temptation.
it is far from monstrous to trail love to perfect it in the few, even Jesus was trialled to extreme, to facing unjust and terrible death in great pain for sake of all others eventually, when they love too because he showed the way of love ...
Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with
water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with
the Holy Ghost and with fire:
three baptisms then, not one, not two, but THREE , and the last is TRIAL by 'fire' of God's truth , love is perfected by trial once one has all truth from spirit baptism [John 16:13] because one stopped sinning [death to the old sinner man in water baptism ] :-
1 Peter 1:7 That the
trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be
tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
it really is easy to be misled if one does not read ALL the scripture of saints and prophets of God for ONESELF alone with God, not the perverted version that Jesus said MUST be taught worldwide by sinners before he could return...
no use grabbing stuff off the web written by sinners, raed teh saints and learn that God ALONE teaches ALL those under grace , they do not teach each other, they only teach sinners in hope of finding the few who will stop sinning and so receive spirit baptism , to have their love trialled in life before death to perfect it :-
Matthew 5:48 Be
ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
God desires for everyone to repent and be saved, but many will not turn from their sinful ways. If it is all "pre-destined" then this statement really cannot be true. When I write a novel I caste someone to be the bad guy and that is that. I have no desire for him to change.
Whilst it is true that FEW perfect love in this life [Matt 7:14,Jude 1:14] and the many are destroyed [Matt 7:13] for sin, that is NOT the end of teh story at all, so read to the end ...
even in the next chapter God saves countless billions [Rev 7:9-10] by means of the kings and priests of the kingdom, the FEW saved FIRST because of Jesus ministry in THIS earth ...
so it matters not that the body is utterly destroyed in the wrath of God, the end of THIS universe, because God will make a new heavens, a new earth, a whole new universe where the FEW prepare the perfect kingdom of LOve in obedience to God and Christ as king of these kings...king of kings and high priest RULING at last and for ALL time in the new earth kingdom come to ALL men
[for many died sinners long before Jesus even came to this earth - the kingdom come is thehir FIRST chance to stop sinning, live all together in love, peace, equality, sharing caring, justice, truth ...]
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth,
wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:
for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
it is a big mistake to prejudge men and God as sinners do in this earth, the salvation of all creation is promised by Jesus, but NOT in THIS earth and heavens :-
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of
this world
Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall
reign on the earth.
thus the kingdom come is in the new earth, not in the heavens, not in this earth except in the heart and mind of the FEW saints NOW ...
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus
every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Revelation 5:13 And
every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and
honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and
unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
there it is then salvation of the WHOLE creation by Jesus eventually, NOT NOW ... and yous ee where listening to sinners gets you by way of misunderstanding... read the SAINTS only, stop listening to the herd soothsayings in churches of sinners, talk to God alone... alone with Him :-
Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and
thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
John 17:20 Neither pray I for
these alone, but for them also which shall
believe on me through their word
Matthew 14:23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain
apart to pray: and when the evening was come,
he was there alone.
"Predestination" was Jesus's way of testing people and what it probably really means is just simply that God see's into the future and knows ahead of time what we will do and choose. I sought Righteousness in the first place because of God and because of Christianity, so far it be for me to find any fault with God. Were it not for him I would not care about it at all, yet because of it I find myself wanting everyone to be saved, and find myself feeling that eternal torment in a world full of 99.9% deception and saving only those who get the cosmic ink blot test right when seeking truth is unfair.
it is ironic that sinners preach their own endless punishment , yet pretend there can be grace for sinners when God says there can be no spirit baptism until folks stop sinning, no entry to the kingdom without spirit baptism, so stopping sinning is but the FIRST step, the foundation of God :-
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the
foundation of God standeth
sure, having this
seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ
depart from iniquity.
1 John 3:8 He that
committeth sin is of the devil
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever
committeth sin is the servant of sin.
sin is unloving, so the sinner cannot even know God because God is known by love, Satan is known by sin :-
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is the transgression of the law.
loads of nonsense preached by sinners about God's law of love ending ... God is love, never changed ... Jesus made the same law , commanded it , as God gave Moses ... simply LOVE , so one must stop sinning because sin is unloving :-
1 John 4:8 He that
loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1 John 4:16 ...he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God,
and God in him.
one cannot know God and cannot be baptised to know all truth [John 16:13] from God coming within [spirit baptism]UNTIL one stops sinning
... thus one cannot even begin one's salvation until one stops sinning, stops abusing others and oneself by sin... loves folks instead of sinning against them, to SHOW one's love of love itself, love of God, for God is love, not sin... Satan is sin, not love... so who runs teh mass churches of sinners, wrk it out oneself , or just read Jesus - e.g. Rev 13:3-4
