Why are there so few power miracles anymore?

[Neogaia777]

I think I'd have to do something completely contrary or opposite to very my nature, or the way I was made, to ever completely lose out on my salvation at this point, etc, and I have, in fact, been told I really don't have to do any of it all, but I still have this desire and will to "want to", etc... "want to" always do, or be, or become better always, or always working toward growing and improving always, etc, just part of the way, I feel, in how I was just simply designed or made, etc, and it's a joy for me to do it, or to try and do it, or put forth the effort, most of the time or a lot of the time, etc...

Do I really have to...? I don't know...? I have been told some of it may not be necessary, etc... but my answer is that it is just part of how I am, or how I was made, etc...

Practically impossible for me to completely give up or quit always, etc... just not in me, etc...

So I press on/go forward always, etc... or at least, I always try to always, etc...

God Bless!

When I hear a voice telling me to rest or take a break, then I rest and take a break, but I always go right back to it again always, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Again, going back to Romans 5:12-19.

You were born into the 1st Adam.

The only completely opposite thing you could have done, to free yourself from him, was to accept Christ's free gift on the cross for you.

That was sufficient for you to get out of him, and land yourself in Christ Jesus.

Now that you are in Christ Jesus thru that decision of yours, there is now absolutely NOTHING you can do to get yourself out of Christ Jesus.

Only if that is true, then you can understand, what Paul was trying to say "how much more".

As I said, there is a reason why he kept repeating that throughout Romans 5:12-19. He wants all of us in the Body of Christ to get it. =)

That new born again nature, at least for me, is almost impossible to go against once you have it, etc...

So, I guess I'm working towards rewards maybe, but I really don't even care about that, I just feel very, very strongly compelled to always be doing what I am working towards or doing always, etc...

I guess you could say I'm just addicted to always improving/growing always, or at least trying to always, etc, and it's not for any kind of rewards at all really, other than just how it makes me feel in the here and now really, etc...

For me, it is the difference between truly living and/or dying, etc... I must do or try when and where I can always, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

That new born again nature, at least for me, is almost impossible to go against once you have it, etc...

So, I guess I'm working towards rewards maybe, but I really don't even care about that, I just feel very, very strongly compelled to always be doing what I am working towards or doing always, etc...

I guess you could say I'm just addicted to always improving/growing always, or at least trying to always, etc, and it's not for any kind of rewards at all really, other than just how it makes me feel in the here and now really, etc...

For me, it is the difference between truly living and/or dying, etc... I must do or try when and where I can always, etc...

God Bless!

When there is nowhere else to go, or no more room to truly grow, is when I truly die, etc...

God Bless!

 

[lismore]

I find that different Christians have different definition of what losing "quality daily fellowship with God" means.

If they mean God is less likely to answer their prayers, I doubt that is the case. =)

Yes that could be one of the definitions:

If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened (Psalm 66:18).

Repentance is key to everything. God Bless

 

[lismore]

Are you going to tell me you believe that, if a Christian does not repent of whatever sins you think he is committing, if he nonethless went ahead and present his requests to God with thanksgiving and no anxiety, God will not give him his peace?

IMHO presenting requests to God with thanksgiving would be a sign that repentance has taken place. God Bless

 

[jiminpa]

Miracles will still continue to happen, but there will be no more signs until the Tribulation begins, when God deals with the nation of Israel.

What do you consider to be signs, and do you have scripture that says that there will be no more until the Tribulation?

 

[Carl Emerson]

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17 These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

Many of these I have personally witnessed.

This forum is particularly for those who believe in these in this age.

I hope you are not propagating a contrary position.

 

[Carl Emerson]

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It is plainly a matter of if you believe the gifts are in operation - if the answer is no then you are violating the rules of the forum by attempting to propagate a contrary view here.

This is the "Spirit filled - Charismatic forum"

It isn't a matter of ceasing interaction with me personally.

 

[sunlover1]

I only read the question and the first page of responses.
FIrst of all, we don't need to find out God's will on healing, when He's already made it more than clear that we WILL lay hands on them and they WILL recover, among many other places in Scripture.
Secondly, we do still see miracles, but they sure aren't going to post them on MSM.
Why not more? Because the church isn't at it's post.
How many have you laid hands on? (Speaking to anyone in general)
Have any laid hands on someone besides family and they recovered?
Narrow is the gate, and so we are few, and the fields are white so we need to get off our "computers" lol and minister healing, which THEN causes them to experience God.
IMO

I'm speaking to myself as well as all brethren.
GO TEAM!

 

[Carl Emerson]

Then why ask the question here? =)

Because you have a consistent history of challenging the general theology of this forum which is established for believers that believe in the gifts operating today.

This is meant to be a safe place for such folks to discuss issues in the company of the like minded...

 

[Guojing]

This is who the forum is for...

In the first place, spirtual gifts is not synonymous with signs.

And secondly, 1 Corinthians 12 never call those gifts as signs.

 

[ARBITER01]

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[Guojing]

House Rules:
All posts within this faith community must adhere to the site wide rules found here (Terms of Service and Christian Forum Rules). In addition, if you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against its theology. You may post in fellowship. Active promotion of views contrary to the established teachings of this group will be considered off topic.

So just to confirm, all charismatics believe that the signs, say of the gospel of John (John 20:30-31), continue even today?

That means anyone of us can raise the dead, feed the 5000 etc? No one should ever disagree with this claim, in this forum?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

So just to confirm, all charismatics believe that the signs, say of the gospel of John (John 20:30-31), continue even today?

That means anyone of us can raise the dead, feed the 5000 etc? No one should ever disagree with this claim, in this forum?

That's exactly what that means to me anyway. That's the whole purpose of my question in my OP. If you do not agree with that you should not be posting contrary statements here. Post in fellowship but not theologically different positions.

 

[Guojing]

That's exactly what that means to me anyway. That's the whole purpose of my question in my OP. If you do not agree with that you should not be posting contrary statements here. Post in fellowship but not theologically different positions.

I see, alright, thanks for confirming the beliefs of charismatics.

If that is really what you guys are believing in, I will take my leave from this forum.

 

[Hazelelponi]

So a dear fellow poster here has mentioned this lately and it is something worth discussing.

When Jesus and even the Apostles ministered healings and cast out demons, they just spoke... Leave them, stand up, be healed... and it happened.

Healings do take place still, I know this, but it seems that such healings are overwhelmingly done as a result of hours of prayer etc.

I'm curious if anyone would like to chime in on why there such a difference in approach to healings now. Is it maybe because we are afraid if we tell a lame person to stand up and walk and they don't we'll look like fools? Does faith need to be built for such acts of ministry or does the Holy Spirit just say go and do?

I've known some healing ministers who teach that starting out in healing you will fail many many times and only through perseverance will healings come. I know in the Gospels the disciples are recorded as failing on occassion and it's because of their lack of faith or that they need to pray and fast more. But after Pentecost you don't see any more failings and Peter's shadow will heal and Paul's touch will bless napkins.

What is the disconnect?

Just a thought, but maybe your looking for God's power in the wrong places, so God is more silent so that you can recognize what His real power is.

There is no greater miracle than the salvation of souls. Period. End of.

It's an utterly amazing and absolutely astounding thing. God is, in the saving of souls, displaying His nature for all mankind to see.

What healing can top that? I would say none.

I went from Islam to being a saved child of God and the entire world turned upside down, and it was like all the heavens and the power of God rained down on my head. It's indescribable, and it's the biggest miracle of all, for God to take a man and change his very nature where he/she stands.

Please know, God is still displaying His power. It's to you to open your eyes.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Just a thought, but maybe your looking for God's power in the wrong places, so God is more silent so that you can recognize what His real power is.

There is no greater miracle than the salvation of souls. Period. End of.

It's an utterly amazing and absolutely astounding thing. God is, in the saving of souls, displaying His nature for all mankind to see.

What healing can top that? I would say none.

I went from Islam to being a saved child of God and the entire world turned upside down, and it was like all the heavens and the power of God rained down on my head. It's indescribable, and it's the biggest miracle of all, for God to take a man and change his very nature where he/she stands.

Please know, God is still displaying His power. It's to you to open your eyes.

That's not what I asked though. No one would argue that Gods greatest miracle is transforming a life. But God does still have the power to raise the dead, restore limbs, open ears, etc. To believe otherwise is to not believe in the full gospel. But that's my question, why don't those things happen anymore?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

I see, alright, thanks for confirming the beliefs of charismatics.

If that is really what you guys are believing in, I will take my leave from this forum.

I don't mind you posting in fellowship. To be honest I wouldn't even mind you posting your own theological views, provided you do that under your own OP specifically stated as such. But that's just me I can't speak for the others

 

[Guojing]

I don't mind you posting in fellowship. To be honest I wouldn't even mind you posting your own theological views, provided you do that under your own OP specifically stated as such. But that's just me I can't speak for the others

Well I certainly did not expect this forum to be a carbon copy of the "sign gift" forum.

But it appears to be, judging from what all of you are saying.

 

[jiminpa]

If you want explicit scripture stating that signs have ceased during this dispensation of grace, there is none that will satisfy you.

Of course there aren't.