Why are there no cows in the Devonian?

[anyathesword]

Hmmmm......not so sure about that. Why do you think it us that ALL religions like to get 'em young...?

Remember the old Catholic aphorism......'give us the boy and we'll show you the man...'

Yeah kinda like that!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes possibly.

But I do not really think he hides himself, he just transforms himself into "tasty forms" for mankind.

What I mean is he makes whatever mankind enjoys as pleasurable, appealing, and available quickly. Such as sexual immorality, lust, power, pride, wealth, great sounding teachers (but false ones), cool books, movies, games, that have violence, magic, etc. in them.

People just don't realize it, I have been guilty of the same. The point is Satan just makes himself look good and God like a lying, tricky, decietful, unloving being, when in fact its the other way around.

No one can say he does a bad job of it. His reputation of having a silver tongue has some backing in reality, it seems.

 

[anyathesword]

No one can say he does a bad job of it. His reputation of having a silver tongue has some backing in reality, it seems.

Of course, he does a great job, thats why many choose his way and not Jesus's way.

But! Thank God he will be bound forever soon, amen.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Of course, he does a great job, thats why many choose his way and not Jesus's way.

But! Thank God he will be bound forever soon, amen.

Soon by god standards or human standards. Because god probably views within the next 100 years as soon, while I view within the next two weeks as soon.

 

[anyathesword]

Soon by god standards or human standards. Because god probably views within the next 100 years as soon, while I view within the next two weeks as soon.

God is outside of time, He doesn't exist by time.

 

[biggles53]

God is outside of time, He doesn't exist by time.

Then it is impossible for it to interact with anything in this universe.....

 

[juvenissun]

NASA OSS: Europa-Another Water World

"Europa is composed of silicate rock and probably has an iron core..........it has a tenuous atmosphere comprised primarily of oxygen....

Jet Propulsion Laboratory | News

"NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has observed water vapor above the frigid south polar region of Jupiter's moon Europa, providing the first strong evidence of water plumes erupting off the moon's surface.

Previous scientific findings from other sources already point to the existence of an ocean located under Europa's icy crust. Researchers are not yet fully certain whether the detected water vapor is generated by erupting water plumes on the surface, but they are confident this is the most likely explanation."

You were saying....?

There is no rock on the surface of Europa.

 

[juvenissun]

Whether you want to call it one literal day or a random other period of time, the problem remains that the order of creation according to Genesis does not conform to the order in which organisms appear in the fossil record.

And you're straining awfully hard to make the Genesis account fit the fossil record. If you have to make up a bunch of parts that were somehow not mentioned in the bible, that should be a an indication that you are on shaky ground. Not that the idea of extra-biblically continuous creation helps you at all. The Bible clearly says that all sea creature and the birds were created on the same day. Are you going to make the claim that when the Bible says all sea creatures and the birds were created on the same day, it actually means just the fish were created on that day and the birds and all the other "great creatures of the sea" were actually not made that day? That's not just making up extra creation events, that's saying that the words actually written in the Bible are inaccurate.

No matter how much you try to twist the words you cling to they do not produce a description of the pattern actually seen in the fossil record. How do you reconcile the fact that the bible claims fish and birds were created at the same time before the appearance of land animals with the fact that birds show up much later than fish in the fossil record and only well after land animals appear?

Not so clear. I do not see the word "all".
In Genesis 1, "every" word counts. Both said and not said are meaningful.

 

[juvenissun]

God is outside of time, He doesn't exist by time.

Allow me to make a friendly modification, so people can't pick on you.

God can be outside of time. His existence is not limited by time.

 

[biggles53]

There is no rock on the surface of Europa.

Rubbish......your post said NOTHING about the "surface"....

 

[anyathesword]

Then it is impossible for it to interact with anything in this universe.....

Now why would it be impossible for God to interact with His Creation?

 

[anyathesword]

Allow me to make a friendly modification, so people can't pick on you.

God can be outside of time. His existence is not limited by time.

Thanks LOL!!

 

[juvenissun]

Rubbish......your post said NOTHING about the "surface"....

Sorry, I don't know that you do not understand.
We live on the earth. Do I have to say that we live in the air of the earth's solid surface? Should I assume that you understand the air and the solid ground?

I do know some schools have a sort of course which mixed students of all years in one class. In that case, one has to teach any subject from a 100 level, even a bunch of seniors also sit in the class.

 

[CabVet]

Sorry, I don't know that you do not understand.
We live on the earth. Do I have to say that we live in the air of the earth's solid surface? Should I assume that you understand the air and the solid ground?

I do know some schools have a sort of course which mixed students of all years in one class. In that case, one has to teach any subject from a 100 level, even a bunch of seniors also sit in the class.

Great, can we go back to the topic now? Why are there no cows in the Devonian?

 

[juvenissun]

Great, can we go back to the topic now? Why are there no cows in the Devonian?

My idea is that creation is a process and life forms are created in sequence. Basically, that is an answer to your question. I understand the details still need to be worked out. But that is a technical problem.

 

[Jro]

My idea is that creation is a process and life forms are created in sequence. Basically, that is an answer to your question. I understand the details still need to be worked out. But that is a technical problem.

Why does that sequence conform to an already fleshed out theory?

 

[CabVet]

My idea is that creation is a process and life forms are created in sequence. Basically, that is an answer to your question. I understand the details still need to be worked out. But that is a technical problem.

Your logic:

Question: Why are there no cows in the devonian?
Answer: Creation is a process and life forms are created in sequence.

See how that doesn't come even close to answering the question? Genesis and the fossil record have organisms appearing in a different order, so, which sequence is wrong? The one in Genesis or the one in the fossil record?

 

[Aman777]

According to the Bible, everything was created during creation week, from bacteria to humans, some 6,000 years ago.

Dear Cab, You are correct that everything that is created, is created within the 6 Days of Creation, as told in Genesis Chapter 1, but that is only half of the story. The rest of the story is that we STILL live on the 6th Creative Day or Age, and we will not advance to the end of present 6th Day until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet at the end of time. Isaiah 11

Some here want to squeeze the entire fossil record into this timeline (of 6,000 years). My question is simple then, why don't we find fossil cows in Devonian strata?

It's because there were No cows then, on our Planet.

To elaborate further, why is are there different communities of organisms in every strata and none of them correspond to what was created on creation week, except the most recent ones? Why are there dozens of layers below the more recent ones with many groups that are missing?

It's because the Creation continues Today on the present 6th Day. Thanks for confirming God's Truth of Genesis One. God is STILL creating today, Scripturally and Literally. His rest (Heb-sabbath), when God rests from ALL of His Creating, is in the FUTURE. Genesis 2:2-3 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[juvenissun]

Your logic:

Question: Why are there no cows in the devonian?
Answer: Creation is a process and life forms are created in sequence.

See how that doesn't come even close to answering the question? Genesis and the fossil record have organisms appearing in a different order, so, which sequence is wrong? The one in Genesis or the one in the fossil record?

According to the Genesis 1, the sequence on the beginning of life kinds are:

plants -- fishes/birds -- land animals -- human.

This is a surprisingly accurate description according to the fossil sequence which is only known to us in the past 200 years. Could any one suggest such a sequence 4000 years ago? The plant is put at the earliest. That is simply amazingly smart.

Cows are created at later time in this sequence. So, if the Devonian is a name for earlier time, then you have your answer.

If the Devonian is the time for the appearing of birds and fishes, that seems to be fine. We can even push the fish back a little bit to the Ordovician time. That is fine too.

 

[Aman777]

Genesis and the fossil record have organisms appearing in a different order, so, which sequence is wrong? The one in Genesis or the one in the fossil record?

Dear Cab, Both are correct. The confusion comes because you are getting the chronology of Adam's world, mixed up with our Planet. the sequence is absolutely correct.

1. Adam, the first Human is made on the 3rd Day.. Gen. 2:4-7
2. The first Trees are made after Adam on the 3rd Day. Gen. 2:8
3. The first Stars of our Cosmos light up on the 4th Day. Gen. 1:16
4. EVERY living creature is made on the 5th Day from the water. Gen. 1:21 This was 3.7 Billion years ago in man's time.
5. The present 6th Day is when God is Creating mankind in His Image or In Christ. It's the Day of Salvation, and it will end when Jesus comes back to this Earth. Isaiah 11 and Gen. 1:28-31
6. Everything is finished or brought to perfection, which is what always happens when God finishes His work. The host of Heaven is safely in Heaven and the 7th Day, which has no end, begins. Genesis 2:2-3

That is God's Truth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman