Why are there no cows in the Devonian?

[PsychoSarah]

Creationism is a bust. It's religious pseudoscience woo-woo. Sorry.

Go back to school.

For those who don't know Latin, pseudo means "false".

 

[Queller]

Do you remember Hitler? He thought that the Aryan race was the fittest and most powerful, so he decided to kill 6 million Jews. Thank you Darwin.

So you believe that if someone misuses a theory that the theory itself is bad?

“More than a scientific theory,” writes Nelkin, “evolutionary psychology is a quasi-religious narrative, providing a simple and compelling answer to complex and enduring questions concerning the cause of good and evil, the basis of moral responsibility and . . . the nature of human nature. While represented as a scientific theory, evolutionary psychology is rooted in a religious impulse to explain the meaning of life.”
A Theory of Everything

You do realize he is talking about evolutionary PSYCHOLOGY right? Not the theory of evolution?

You all need to realize, your theory of Evolution is not just a science, it is a RELIGION, a MYTH, it is a historical narrative of the past!! It is seeping in to society, it is trying to convert people to it, just like a religion.

The theory of Evolution is so compelling to scientists for only the fact to deny the existance of an Intelligent Creator!!

This is completely false. There are multitudes of Christian scientists who believe in God.

 

[LoricaLady]

For those who don't know Latin, pseudo means "false".

Still no one giving any data whatsoever to support the non existent Geological Column and its subsequently non existent "ages" such as Devonian. Lots of ad hominems. No data. And here is PsychoSarah telling you what pseudo means. Gee, she doesn't have much faith in yer all's intellectual level. If you don't even know what pseudo means, maybe you should work on your vocabulary before delving into - real! ahem! - science? Just a rhetorical Q.

No one will ever give any data for the GC. 'Cause it's just one of evolution's big myths, you could say even one of its pseudo religious ideas for the...faith....ful, presented commonly as scientific fact. So no reason to hang around anymore. Let those see who have eyes to see.

But...if it does bother you - as it should - that no one ever told you there really is no GC, maybe you should start looking outside the box to see what else they are telling you that is b.s. You know, things like that Darwin never showed any origin of anything. Things like evolutionists never agree on a single "transitional" fossil, and in fact some have admitted there are 0 to show.

Things like the fact that the sun is giving off heat and light every day and has to follow the same laws of thermodynamics as everything else. Yet....we're just to ass-u-me it has been as friendly to life on earth for not just millionis but billiions of years. Like that the moon is receding and just millions of years ago those tides we need for life on earth would have been typhoons, and before too long, way before even 1 billion years, the moon would be on tghe earth's lap.

Things like the fact that, like any spinning top, the earth's rotations is slowing down. Gee, I wonder how fast it must have been spinning even 1 million years ago? Or did they ever tell you that the earth's magnetic field is also weakening. At the present rate, how long before life was impossible here?

Science shows carbon 14 can only last for 100 thousands years or so, max. But, uh, it's found all over the earth, even in diamonds that are supposedly much, much older than 100 thousand years.. Did they tell you that blood cells and stretchy tissues have been found in T Rex bones recently, ditto in stegosaurus horns and that such materials have been found since early last century?

Probably not. But the info is out there in the science mags, even a little in the politically correct Darwin lovin' press. This is a scrape off the iceberg of things to check out. If you want to look out side the box. Just a thought.

Bye y'all!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Still no one giving any data whatsoever to support the non existent Geological Column and its subsequently non existent "ages" such as Devonian. Lots of ad hominems. No data. And here is PsychoSarah telling you what pseudo means. Gee, she doesn't have much faith in yer all's intellectual level. If you don't even know what pseudo means, maybe you should work on your vocabulary before delving into - real! ahem! - science? Just a rhetorical Q.

No one will ever give any data for the GC. 'Cause it's just one of evolution's big myths, you could say even one of its pseudo religious ideas for the...faith....ful, presented commonly as scientific fact. So no reason to hand around anymore. Let those see who have eyes to see.

But...if it does bother you - as it should - that no one ever told you there really is no GC, maybe you should start looking outside the box to see what else they are telling you that is b.s. You know, things like that Darwin never showed any origin of anything. Things like evolutionists never agree on a single "transitional" fossil, and in fact some have admitted there are 0 to show.

Things like the fact that the sun is giving off heat and light every day and has to follow the same laws of thermodynamics as everything else. Yet....we're just to ass-u-me it has been as friendly to life on earth for not just millionis but billiions of years. Like that the moon is receding and just millions of years ago those tides we need for life on earth would have been typhoons, and before too long, way before even 1 billion years, the moon would be on tghe earth's lap.

Things like the fact that, like any spinning top, the earth's rotations is slowing down. Gee, I wonder how fast it must have been spinning even 1 million years ago? Or did they ever tell you that the earth's magnetic field is also weakening. At the present rate, how long before life is impossible here?

Like that carbon can only last for 100 thousands years or so, max. But, uh, it's found all over the earth, even in diamonds that are supposedly much younger. Did they tell you that blood cells and stretchy tissues have been found in T Rex bones recently, ditto in stegosaurus horns and that such materials have been found since early last century?

Probably not. But the info is out there in the science mags, even a little in the politically correct Darwin lovin' press. This is a scrape off the iceberg of things to check out. If you want to look out side the box. Just a thought.

Bye y'all!

In stuff that is older, uranium decay is used. And carbon 14 is a particular kind of radioactive carbon: most carbon is carbon 12 (the number is the number of protons and neutrons, though only the number of neutrons is different between carbon 14 and carbon 12). Also, there are various processes by which new carbon 14 is created. The only reason it gradually runs out in dead stuff is that we get most of our carbon 14 by eating plants and other animals. We don't eat when we are dead, so it only begins to decrease in our bodies after we die.

 

[LoricaLady]

In stuff that is older, uranium decay is used. And carbon 14 is a particular kind of radioactive carbon: most carbon is carbon 12 (the number is the number of protons and neutrons, though only the number of neutrons is different between carbon 14 and carbon 12). Also, there are various processes by which new carbon 14 is created. The only reason it gradually runs out in dead stuff is that we get most of our carbon 14 by eating plants and other animals. We don't eat when we are dead, so it only begins to decrease in our bodies after we die.

Carbon 14 is in diamonds and they are "dated" by evolutionists as being older than 100,000 years by a long shot. So your post is not relevant to what I said. But it never will be. Bye!

 

[juvenissun]

Where it comes from originally; an idea from the minds of humanity. However, if creationism were true, then there should be observable evidence to suggest it is true. So many creationists go through a bunch of effort to try to disprove evolution, but I haven't seen many actually try to prove creationism without treating the "flaws" of evolution as evidence that creationism is correct. It is like trying to say that, since 2+2 doesn't equal 5 that it must equal 6. Disproving one theory doesn't prove another, so even if you could 100% prove that evolution, despite all of the evidence that suggests otherwise, is wrong, it wouldn't prove creationism was correct either, because of the possibility that BOTH theories are incorrect.

What's said in the Genesis 1 is definitely way way beyond human wisdom.

 

[bhsmte]

What's said in the Genesis 1 is definitely way way beyond human wisdom.

Why would God inspire a book that man could not understand?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, since the book was meant for humans. But, hey, saying it is beyond human wisdom is a pretty good smoke screen, I will give you that.

 

[Queller]

Fishes appear in the Devonian strata and again in the Mezoic strata.

First off you are confusing things here. The Devonian is a time period in the Paleozoic era. The other periods in the Palezoic are the Cambrian, the Ordovician, the Silurian, the Carboniferous, and the Permian periods. The Mesozoic is and era consisting of the Triassic, the Jurassic, and the Cretaceous periods.

Second, fish appear in the Cambrian period and appear in every single period from then on.

There is the Cambrian 'Explosion', where everything just exploded!!

The Cambrian "explosion" lasted between 70-80 million years.

The flood and other natural disasters have changed the different layers!

Only if you believe they changed the different layers from what would be expected to result from a flood to layers that look like they were the result of extremely long time periods in which life began as single celled organisms and and slowly became more complex.

Like I said before too, everything was created in 1 week. Things died not in the order they were created! Everything was alive in 1 week.

Why do you feel that a literal interpretation of Genesis is necessary for salvation?

 

[PsychoSarah]

What's said in the Genesis 1 is definitely way way beyond human wisdom.

If it were, you wouldn't be able to understand it. Jeez, humans wrote it.

 

[Queller]

Originally Posted by Atheos canadensis

Each of God's Days of Ages is some 4.5 Billion years in length in man's time. You don't seem to know what Day it is or which world you are speaking about. God Bless you and help you to understand His Truth.

In Love,
Aman
​

You believe the universe is 27+ billion years old?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Carbon 14 is in diamonds and they are "dated" by evolutionists as being older than 100,000 years by a long shot. So your post is not relevant to what I said. But it never will be. Bye!

If nothing anyone says is relevant to you, then why 1 be disrespectful and say that and 2 why be on here?

 

[juvenissun]

Now plug in all instead of every.

Still means the same thing.

Definitely not.

The "qualifier" (in the parentheses) makes the substitution seemingly the same. Without the qualifier, you can easily see the discrepancy. That is the key of my argument.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Definitely not.

The "qualifier" (in the parentheses) makes the substitution seemingly the same. Without the qualifier, you can easily see the discrepancy. That is the key of my argument.

Show a dictionary that defines all and every as meaning different things. And cite the source.

 

[Queller]

Here is an even better Q for you? What layers in the Devonian? There is no Devonian period. Surprised? Yeal, that Geologic Column that they put in science textbooks with no disclaimers doesn't...exist!

It is a purely theoretical construct made up by a 19th century lawyer, George Lyell, who had bad eyesight. He never saw any such thing as a Geologic Column. No one else has either. Try and find one. Oh you'll find tons of excuses for why there isn't one, based on the usual logical fallacies and presumptions presented as scientific fact which evolution is built on. But there is no Devonian layered system, no Geologic Column. You (as I was in the past) have had the wool pulled over your eyes.

Please read this before you tell us the geologic column does not exist.

The Geologic Column in North Dakota

You can, for example, find so called "Cambrian" fossils on most any mountain top.

So what Are you aware of things called uplift and erosion?

The truth is that the fossil record is extremely jumbled.

Not even remotely

The truth is that the paleontologists - depending on which group you ask on which day - make up stories about how such and such happened in the past.

And why would they (especially the Christian paleontologists) lie about such things?

The truth is they don't have a baseline going back so called millions, even billions, of years ago, so all they say is not real science. It's not testable, repeatable, or observable. It's just theoretical, built on their determination to believe that the earth is old. If they had a real Geologic Column, or anything but conjecture presented as fact, they wouldn't have to keep hoodwinking people that the GC is reality based.

See the link above.

 

[juvenissun]

Why would God inspire a book that man could not understand?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, since the book was meant for humans. But, hey, saying it is beyond human wisdom is a pretty good smoke screen, I will give you that.

Because it is not the main message.

And the message is intended to impress people of our time.

People did not understand Genesis 1. You do not even understand it now. If so, why did people keep this erroneous message? The reason is very simple and you should learn it: we do not understand the message does not mean the message is wrong. It turns out the message is becoming more and more true through time. 90% of scientific implications in the Bible has now been verified by modern science.

In this thread, I am ABLE to defend another piece of puzzle in the Genesis 1. The fact that I am still able to make argument for this 4000 years old idea should impress you enough.

 

[Queller]

How do you know? Why is your interpretation correct?

What interpretation? I am using a plain reading of Genesis. There is no qualifier. If you feel there is please show us.

Why are you adding to the Bible when you say God created fish on two different days?

 

[PsychoSarah]

I think that these discussions are a waste of time. The number of people who gain from them is not worth the sheer amount of hate they spawn. I might leave. No one is going to learn the most important lesson of all: that we are all human, and should live while we are alive, not worry about what happens when we die, because worrying about it will not change our eventual death.

 

[juvenissun]

Show a dictionary that defines all and every as meaning different things. And cite the source.

Ineffective and awkward argument.
Who are you to tell me to do that?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Because it is not the main message.

And the message is intended to impress people of our time.

People did not understand Genesis 1. You do not even understand it now. If so, why did people keep this erroneous message? The reason is very simple and you should learn it: we do not understand the message does not mean the message is wrong. It turns out the message is becoming more and more true through time. 90% of scientific implications in the Bible has now been verified by modern science.

In this thread, I am ABLE to defend another piece of puzzle in the Genesis 1. The fact that I am still able to make argument for this 4000 years old idea should impress you enough.

That means you don't understand it either.

 

[juvenissun]

I think that these discussions are a waste of time. The number of people who gain from them is not worth the sheer amount of hate they spawn. I might leave. No one is going to learn the most important lesson of all: that we are all human, and should live while we are alive, not worry about what happens when we die, because worrying about it will not change our eventual death.

But it might change your life after the death.