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Why Are There No Christian Suicide Bombers?

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What's an adhom?
I think he meant ad hoc. I mean seriously, that comment was just wrong. So what if the Commies did, CCGirl isn't responsible for any of that. She's in Canada for pete's sake! What do they do there?

Some of you may find it weird for me to defend CCGirl, but I call a foul remark where it's foul, and that was as foul as they came.
 
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I think he meant ad hoc. I mean seriously, that comment was just wrong. So what if the Commies did, CCGirl isn't responsible for any of that. She's in Canada for pete's sake! What do they do there?

Some of you may find it weird for me to defend CCGirl, but I call a foul remark where it's foul, and that was as foul as they came.

Nope, I think it was adhom, short for ad hominem, meaning it was an attack on the person, not on their arguments. But I agree, it was a foul remark.
 
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I think he meant ad hoc. I mean seriously, that comment was just wrong. So what if the Commies did, CCGirl isn't responsible for any of that. She's in Canada for pete's sake! What do they do there?

Some of you may find it weird for me to defend CCGirl, but I call a foul remark where it's foul, and that was as foul as they came.

I think the remark went too far...but on the other hand, what can a communist possibly expect from the application of communism to a society except poverty and totalitarianism at best, and mass murder at worst? Hasn't that been the outcome of communism everywhere it's been tried? The Soviet Union...China...North Korea...eastern Europe...the list of slaughters and failures goes on and on.

So I wouldn't call CCgirl a killer, or claim she has kinship with killers, but I would ask her just why in the world she thinks a communist revolution today would achieve results any different from Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc., etc., etc.? What's changed?
 
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I think the remark went too far...but on the other hand, what can a communist possibly expect from the application of communism to a society except poverty and totalitarianism at best, and mass murder at worst? Hasn't that been the outcome of communism everywhere it's been tried? The Soviet Union...China...North Korea...eastern Europe...the list of slaughters and failures goes on and on.

So I wouldn't call CCgirl a killer, or claim she has kinship with killers, but I would ask her just why in the world she thinks a communist revolution today would achieve results any different from Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc., etc., etc.? What's changed?

They'd be interesting questions, but they wouldn't really be relevant to the topic. I think it's wrong to disregard her opinion just because she's a communist (if, indeed, she actually is one), as someone on this thread has done. Communism hasn't been properly applied to anywhere (with the possible exception of Cuba) and Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao weren't proper communists (imo)
 
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I think he meant ad hoc. I mean seriously, that comment was just wrong. So what if the Commies did, CCGirl isn't responsible for any of that. She's in Canada for pete's sake! What do they do there?

Some of you may find it weird for me to defend CCGirl, but I call a foul remark where it's foul, and that was as foul as they came.

Nope, I think it was adhom, short for ad hominem, meaning it was an attack on the person, not on their arguments. But I agree, it was a foul remark.

:doh: I should've been able to figure that out! :sorry:

Yeah, I think he meant ad hominem. And I agree, though I seldom agree w/CCGirl, that post was uncalled for.
 
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can't say that is true. the greatest martyrs of the faith did not fight at all. Jesus and Stephen did not raise a hand in their defense, but meerly asked God to forgive their killers.
perhaps there are fewer suicide bombers because we are taught to expect persecution and to love our enemies and turn our cheeks. suffering is something of an expectation in this lifetime.
That is true too.
 
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What's an adhom?

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument. It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument's proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.


He attacked her and not her argument.
 
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I assure you, if the muslim factions had access to stealth bombers you would see few, if any suicide bombers.

I disagree..they wouldn't get their 72 virgins if they survive..

A large reason that they do it is because Muslim societies are so sexually repressed and males just explode..they want their 72 virgins..beats having to court and then marry in such a society
 
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I disagree..they wouldn't get their 72 virgins if they survive..

A large reason that they do it is because Muslim societies are so sexually repressed and males just explode..they want their 72 virgins..beats having to court and then marry in such a society


If that were realy the case, all Muslim males would have strapped a brick of C-4 to their waist and blown themselves up a long time ago.
 
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Christian doctrines are different from Muslim doctrines. There are many examples of martyrs in the New Testament, and all of them (as far as I know) were nonviolent. They truly were killed for their faith.

The Koran leaves more wiggle room for extremist interpretation. With my limited and biased knowledge, the Koran is a better justification for violence against other people on Earth than the New Testament is. The Old Testament might beat the Koran, but most Christians thankfully seem to think that most of the OT commandments are void or no longer applicable.
 
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Suicide bombings and terrorism in general seem to be much more dependent on the culture and the local situation than on religion. While Muslim suicide bombers are definitely in the majority, consider that they mostly come from and operate in extremely volatile regions such as the Middle East. Look away from stable places such as Europe and Africa and you can find Christian militants. If anyone recalls the Christian/Muslim riots in Africa (I think it was either Kenya or Ethiopia) last year (around the time of the Muslim cartoon riots, if I recall), Christians were responsible for most of the bloodshed there. Also, consider the Lord's Resistance Army that operated in Uganda in the past decade - while not using suicide bombers, they were (and to some extent are) fond of hacking off people's arms, conscripting 10 year old children into their ranks, etc..

My point is, I don't think religion has much to do with suicide bombings at all; it can be used as a justification (i.e. "martyrdom operations"), but I think suicide bombings are mostly the result of the political situation and the general mentality of the people in a certain region. Perhaps Islam and Hinduism (Tamil Tigers) make it easier to justify such things than Christianity, but I don't think religions are the root cause and I wouldn't be surprised to find out about Christian suicide bombings occurring for example in certain African regions.
 
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The Muslim suicide bomber like the Japanese Kamikaze air pilot in Word War II have believed a lie. Being told that doing such will result in a fantastic future life, they queue up to volunteer.

There are no Christian suicide bombers because the Christian teaching does not accommodate such action
 
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