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Oh, you're going to make me go to the backroom and dig through some boxes aren't you?
How would you know if he was?Good... But is what Paul was selling the same product that Jesus originally produced?
Probably not. Should it have been?
I'm under the impression that different people have different perspectives on ... well... just darn near about anything we may think or encounter around us in this world.
Why would we expect Paul to be any different on this epistemic count? Because of the Holy Spirit?
That's good. I didn't want to work that hard anyway.I don't want a reading list. You said: 'I credit Jesus of Nazareth for much of the ideological and ethical (re)direction in the world'. Not 'I read some books that credit Jesus...etc'.
Shouldn't you be asking what I mean by that statement first, especially since it was directed at another poster? Just knowing the kinds of assumptions that are brought onto CF by various atheists, I probably don't mean what you thought I meant.I want to know why you credit Him with that.
What is your purpose for Hades?
Personally, I think Paul was close enough. I mean, what do you expect? Little Jesus clones literally running around everywhere?Should Christianity be based on the teachings of Christ? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Not really. Not magically anyway.Isn't that what the Holy Spirit is supposed to do for Christians? Help guide them and discern correct teachings?
Don't get me wrong; people can follow whoever they please, but it seems misleading to deliberately name it after the wrong fellow... Just because "Paulianity" doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely.
1 Corinthians 1:2 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.Don't get me wrong; people can follow whoever they please, but it seems misleading to deliberately name it after the wrong fellow... Just because "Paulianity" doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely.
Scary horrifying people, the worse for being sanctimonious about it.You've spent a number of posts telling us that what is in the bible is literally true and that punishments detailed in tbe bible are justified. Even when it comes to stoning women to death. Which is simply not credible in itself. But what thought processes are going through your head when you think you can make light of such a horror?
You do know that this inhuman practice is still carried out today? I could link to a few that actually show it happening - but I won't because they are simply too horrific.
Perhaps you should watch a couple and then tell us that it's perfectly reasonable.
Personally, I think Paul was close enough. I mean, what do you expect? Little Jesus clones literally running around everywhere?
Not really. Not magically anyway.
You and I may be operating under different notions as to what constitutes a good expectation for fidelity in human communication.
Let's just say that my understanding of the Philosphy of History doesn't expect the puzzle pieces of human testimony, whether that of 1st hand or 2nd hand, to nicely jive with every other fact of reality in which anyone lives and breaths. And I expect very, very little "magic" where Christianity is concerned.
The diploma bit is going to lead to some judging byIt might reduce the amount of eye rolling that I feel is going on. But then you're going to get stuck with some of that anyway if you insist on putting your qualifications down in your signature. You'll be judged by the quality of your posts, not on the diploma on the wall.
1 Corinthians 1:2 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
... somehow, I don't think anyone is going to see that I've ever pandered to that extraordinary position about the bible. Not that I don't think it's special; it's just that I think that trying to claim superlativeness for the Bible isn't needed for Christianity to be "real." It's kind of like the Ontological argument--some Christians just have to make up some superlative sounding arguments to protect their niche.That sound you're hearing is all the talk I've heard over the years about God "perfectly" preserving His word shattering like glass.
I was never into buying bulk candy. I do like the occasional Snickers bar, though.How about miraculously? This is the C/E forum; usually we get miracles-on-demand delivered in bulk.
Yeah. I understand. But I've found that reading a little Kenton L. Sparks can put an end to that.Not at all -- but up until now, I've been told by believers that the Bible is divine, not human, communication.
I've been getting bad information, it seems
I didn't take God out of the equation. I just don't assume that I can put Him into the equation in the first place. Fundamentalists--whom I still love-- take the Bible and start with it from the Top down.We are in agreement... with each other. Although I suspect most of the Christians around here will take issue with taking God out of the equation...
...I won't as I never believed He was in it in the first place.
The diploma bit is going to lead to some judging by
people who have actually graced the ivy halls with their presence.
We have degrees too. Its embarrassing to display them
emblazoned on our hats and letterhead.
As for field of study- degrees in psychology for example
are worthless. Guaranteed eyeroll if someone chirps their
expertise from a ba in psych. If they get twitted for it, they
could reflect on why.
A bit of philosophy is interesting, and actually a significant
help on the LSAT.
A degree in it is on the frivilous side.
As for a degree in Education, well, nobody is impressed
for reasons familiar to those who know theirvway around the U.
But sure, anyone can claim any expertise they wish.
You can easily fake that.
Faking sensible and knowledgeable talk, not so much.
Who's worse? these "scary horrifying people," or those who prod these "scary horrifying people" to see their Behavior Manual as the prodders see them?Scary horrifying people, the worse for being sanctimonious about it.
You've been told correctly.I've been told by believers that the Bible is divine, not human, communication.
Depends on what they do with it.As for a degree in Education, well, nobody is impressed
No, your failure was explained to you and you had no response. As a result you did contradict yourself.
... somehow, I don't think anyone is going to see that I've ever pandered to that extraordinary position about the bible. Not that I don't think it's special; it's just that I think that trying to claim superlativeness for the Bible isn't needed for Christianity to be "real." It's kind of like the Ontological argument--some Christians just have to make up some superlative sounding arguments to protect their niche.
I have no niche to protect.
How is this relevant in the context of the mistreatment of women in the Bible?
If you think that it happened then it's an example of God's power. If you think it didn't then it's an illustration of God's power.
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