Why are some Christians anti Evolution?

[BNR32FAN]

The assumptions behind the numbers are not sound.

Still dont wan

What assumptions?

You have the distance across the brim you have the circumference of the pool with those two numbers you can derive the width of the brim by using simple algebra.

The diameter of the brim is 180”
The circumference of the pool is 540”
180x3.14=565.2 circumference of the brim
540 circumference of the pool
565.2-540=25.2 the difference in circumference between the pool and the brim
25.2/3.14=8the difference in diameter between the pool and the brim
8/2=4 the brim hangs over both sides so you have to divide the difference in diameter by 2

Now you know the pool has a 4” brim.

 

[stevil]

And in case you haven't seen them before, here are my standards I use in my apologetics:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

So number 5 is where you lose credibility, especially if you don't disclaim that you are speculating.
If people catch you out on 5 then they start to doubt your answers to 1,2,3,4. you lose credibility as to being trusted as a source or authority on the information.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Being made in His image don't mean physical image .... we were made with the same type of character as He (perfect in the beginning) but after the fall of mankind now our character (image) is flawed because of sin and sin is transgression of God law and that is why planet earth is in such a mess.

All because of some bad advice from a talking reptile... who knew perfection could be so fragile?

 

[AV1611VET]

If people catch you out on 5 then they start to doubt your answers to 1,2,3,4. you lose credibility as to being trusted as a source or authority on the information.

You have to "catch me out"* on 5 first.

* Did you mean "call me out"?

 

[AV1611VET]

... who knew perfection could be so fragile?

Don't confuse perfection with omnipotence.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I thought you said it happens in a day.

no but your welcome to quote me if you believe I did.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Being made in His image don't mean physical image .... we were made with the same type of character as He (perfect in the beginning) but after the fall of mankind now our character (image) is flawed because of sin and sin is transgression of God law and that is why planet earth is in such a mess.

Nonsense if we were made perfect in character as God is there would’ve never been a fall because Adam wouldn’t have been able to sin just as God cannot sin.

 

[stevil]

You have to "catch me out"* on 5 first.

* Did you mean "call me out"?

We've been doing that in this thread when you talk about photosynthesis, entropy and that energy that isn't mentioned in the bible.

Catch/call same difference

 

[stevil]

Nonsense if we were made perfect in character as God is there would’ve never been a fall because Adam wouldn’t have been able to sin just as God cannot sin.

Oh my, I'm getting into Christian theology here, which I know nothing about.

What is it that makes a person unique? The soul?
Does this mean that god gives some people bad souls? Was Adam given a bad soul, is this why he disobeyed god? Is listening to one's wife considered bad?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Oh my, I'm getting into Christian theology here, which I know nothing about.

What is it that makes a person unique? The soul?
Does this mean that god gives some people bad souls? Was Adam given a bad soul, is this why he disobeyed god? Is listening to one's wife considered bad?

No we were given free will and that is the source of sin.

 

[BNR32FAN]

What is it that makes a person unique? The soul?
Does this mean that god gives some people bad souls? Was Adam given a bad soul, is this why he disobeyed god? Is listening to one's wife considered bad?

Right here you built up your own straw man by answering your first question incorrectly then proceeded to knocked it down with the rest. Probably would’ve been a better idea to just wait for the first question to be answered then you could’ve avoided the straw man all together.

 

[AV1611VET]

We've been doing that in this thread when you talk about photosynthesis, entropy and that energy that isn't mentioned in the bible.

Shekinah energy.

And you don't know how many times I've been questioned on those.

How would YOU address someone who says the Bible is wrong, because It has angiospermes trees before the sun?

 

[sjastro]

Then you run into people who can't reconcile how Judas died, so then they claim the Bible contradicts Itself.

Sometimes filling in the gaps can help a person understand better.

And in case you haven't seen them before, here are my standards I use in my apologetics:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

You either have the memory of a goldfish or are being highly disingenuous.
Let me remind you of this post.
To recap you introduced Deuteronomy 22:22 into the discussion which clearly states adultery and fornication are punishable by death yet you admit adultery and fornication need a lesser punishment.
Ergo you are contradicting the Prime Directive.

 

[stevil]

Shekinah energy.

And you don't know how many times I've been questioned on those.

How would YOU address someone who says the Bible is wrong, because It has angiospermes trees before the sun?

If I was a creationist, I would say that I believe the bible is right, but that the bible doesn't go into detail about how trees functioned without the sun. That I recognise it as a problem given what we know today about how trees function. If I was one to speculate on biblical matters I might say perhaps the trees were functioning on Shekinah energy. But I would certainly make clear to my audience that Shekinah energy is not mentioned in the bible and that this is pure speculation on my behalf.

 

[ottawak]

True but I like to shut down the mockers & scoffers.

Yes, I can see that it would be unpleasant to to have your interpretation of Scripture mocked and scoffed at. I also find it unpleasant when Creatioists mock and scoff at mine.

 

[stevil]

No we were given free will and that is the source of sin.

Yeah but, what is it that is unique to a person that causes them to choose to obey god or to make their own decisions (a.k.a. sin)?
Is it because some have an obedient soul and some have an independent soul?

 

[stevil]

Right here you built up your own straw man by answering your first question incorrectly then proceeded to knocked it down with the rest. Probably would’ve been a better idea to just wait for the first question to be answered then you could’ve avoided the straw man all together.

I don't know the answers, I just provided that second bit to make my question clearer. It's hard to discuss this stuff when I don't have much grasp on biblical concepts.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

When different sediments of different densities are stirred up in liquid then settle they will form several layers. Not just one layer.

That's not the problem.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I thought you said it happens in a day.

It was a really long day...

 

[SelfSim]

No we were given free will and that is the source of sin.

If God is omnipotent, and thus already knows our futures, then how is our free choice even possible?