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Why are so many Christians against annihilation in hell when scripture supports it?

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The Early Church Fathers on Hell
The Early Fathers believed in a literal hell. A place where unrepentant sinners would spend their eternity separated from God. A place where all hope would be abandoned and where misery and suffering would be a constant companion. The idea that the Bibles torturous descriptions of hell were somehow symbolic of non-existence, as Jehovah’s Witnesses claim, was something that would have been totally foreign to them. To the Fathers, if Jesus said that something was eternal and torturous, (Matthew 25:46, Luke 16:24) then that is what it was. Rather than water down Jesus words they instead chose to use them to warn the faithful as Jesus Himself did.

Ignatius of Antioch

Corrupters of families will not inherit the kingdom of God. And if they who do these things according to the flesh suffer death, how much more if a man corrupt by evil reaching the faith of God for the sake of which Jesus Christ was crucified? A man become so foul will depart into unquenchable fire, and so will anyone who listens to him (Letter to the Ephesians 16:1-2 [A.D. 110]).

Clement of Rome

If we do the will of Christ, we shall obtain rest; but if not, if we neglect his commandments, nothing will rescue us from eternal punishment (Second Clement 5:5 [A.D. 150]).

Justin Martyr

No more is it possible for the evildoer, the avaricious, and the treacherous to hide from God than it is for the virtuous. Every man will receive the eternal punishment or reward which his actions deserve. Indeed, if all men recognized this, no one would choose evil even for a short time, knowing that he would incur the eternal sentence of fire. On the contrary, he would take every means to control himself and to adorn himself in virtue, so that he might obtain the good gifts of God and escape the punishments (First Apology 12 [A.D. 151]).

[Jesus] shall come from the heavens in glory with his angelic host, when he shall raise the bodies of all the men who ever lived. Then he will clothe the worthy in immortality; but the wicked, clothed in eternal sensibility, he will commit to the eternal fire, along with the evil demons (ibid. 52).

The Martyrdom of Polycarp

Fixing their minds on the grace of Christ, [the martyrs] despised worldly tortures and purchased eternal life with but a single hour. To them, the fire of their cruel torturers was cold. They kept before their eyes their escape from the eternal and unquenchable fire (Martyrdom of Polycarp 2:3 [A.D. 155]).

Athenagoras

We [Christians] are persuaded that when we are removed from this present life we shall live another life, better than the present one. . . . Then we shall abide near God and with God, changeless and free from suffering in the soul . . . or if we fall with the rest [of mankind], a worse one and in fire; for God has not made us as sheep or beasts of burden, a mere incidental work, that we should perish and be annihilated (Plea for the Christians 31 [A.D. 177]).

Theophilus of Antioch

Give studious attention to the prophetic writings [the Bible] and they will lead you on a clearer path to escape the eternal punishments and to obtain the eternal good things of God.... [God] will examine everything and will judge justly, granting recompense to each according to merit. To those who seek immortally by the patient exercise of good works, he will give everlasting life, joy, peace, rest, and all good things. . . , For the unbelievers and for the contemptuous and for those who do not submit to the truth but assent to iniquity, when they have been involved in adulteries, and fornications, and homosexualities, and avarice, and in lawless idolatries, there will be wrath and indignation, tribulation and anguish; and in the end, such men as these will be detained in everlasting fire (To Autolycus 1:14 [A.D. 181]).

Irenaeus

The penalty increases for those who do not believe the Word of God and despise his coming. . . . It is not merely temporal, but eternal. To whomsoever the Lord shall say, "Depart from me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire," they will be damned forever (Against Heresies4:28:2 [A.D. 189]).

Hippolytus

Standing before [Christ's] judgment, all of them, men, angels, and demons, crying out in one voice, shall say: "Just is your judgment!" And the righteousness of that cry will be apparent in the recompense made to each. To those who have done well, everlasting enjoyment shall be given; while to the lovers of evil shall be given eternal punishment. The unquenchable and unending fire awaits these latter, and a certain fiery worm which does not die and which does not waste the body but continually bursts forth from the body with unceasing pain. No sleep will give them rest; no night will soothe them; no death will deliver them from punishment; no appeal of interceding friends will profit them (Against the Greeks3 [A.D. 212]).

Minucius Felix

I am not ignorant of the fact that many, in the consciousness of what they deserve, would rather hope than actually believe that there is nothing for them after death. They would prefer to be annihilated rather than be restored for punishment. . . . Nor is there measure nor end to these torments. That clever fire burns the limbs and restores them, wears them away and yet sustains them, just as fiery thunderbolts strike bodies but do not consume them (Octavius34:12-5:3 [A.D. 226]).

Cyprian of Carthage

An ever-burning Gehenna and the punishment of being devoured by living flames will consume the condemned; nor will there be any way in which the tormented can ever have respite or be at an end. Souls along with their bodies will be preserved for suffering in unlimited agonies. . . . The grief at punishment will then be without the fruit of repentance; weeping will be useless, and prayer ineffectual. Too late will they believe in eternal punishment, who would not believe in eternal life (To Demetrian 24 [A.D. 252]).

Lactantius

We therefore speak better and more truly, who say that the two ways belong to heaven and hell, because immortality is promised to the righteous, and everlasting punishment is threatened to the unrighteous (Divine Institutes 6 [A.D. 307]).

Cyril of Jerusalem

We shall be raised therefore, all with our bodies eternal, but not all with bodies alike; For if a man is righteous, he will receive a heavenly body, that he may be able worthily to hold converse with angels; but if a man is a sinner, he shall receive an eternal body, fitted to endure the penalties of sins, that he may burn eternally in fire, nor ever be consumed. And righteously will God assign this portion to either company; for we do nothing without the body. We blaspheme with the mouth, and with the mouth we pray. With the body we commit fornication, and with the body we keep chastity. With the hand we rob, and by the hand we bestow alms; and the rest in like manner. Since then the body has been our minister in all things, it shall also share with us in the future the fruits of the past (Catechetical Lectures18:19 [A.D. 350]).

John Chrysostom

This is no small subject of enquiry which we propose, but rather about things which are of the first necessity and which all men enquire about; namely, whether hell fire have any end. For that it hath no end Christ indeed declared when he said, "Their fire shall not be quenched, and their worm shall not die” (Homily 9 on 1 Corinthians 3:12-15[circa A.D. 388]).
 
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The Greek word aionios, erroneously translated above as "everlasting", is the same Greek word that is often deceptively translated as eternal or everlasting at Mt.25:46.

It’s translated that way because that’s what the word means.
 
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Not only do discard-spawning heretics ensnare the babes in Christ, but they drive stronger Christians to unrighteous indignation. No place for heresy! I think the firing up of the pyres were decidedly unchristian...but boy do I sympathize!

Roaring lions seeking to gobble up the little ones!
 
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People need to realize the seriousness of this tactic...how it's designed in hell and the purpose of it.

If I am a new Christian, somewhat ignorant of the word, and I'm struggling to stay away from worldliness and the lusts of the flesh...

Then boom! Here comes this soul-murdering antichrist to lay the death blow to the little helpless lamb. "Go sin. Not that bad of consequences." Where have we heard that one before? Oh yea, from their father...a soul murderer from the beginning. He who loved himself to the destruction of many! It's never enough for a child of hell to be content with his own destruction...he must share it.

Further, this kind of talk sows discord and forces a confrontation in our midst...while the world goes to hell around us!

Soul murderers!
 
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They should make pills for this.
Isn't that what antipsychotic meds are for? (assuming you mean a remedy) Otherwise there are psychotropics to enhance the "truth". lol
 
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Isn't that what antipsychotic meds are for? (assuming you mean a remedy) Otherwise there are psychotropics to enhance the "truth". lol

I seriously have been asking myself if this guy is a drug addict or alcoholic.
 
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People need to realize the seriousness of this tactic...how it's designed in hell and the purpose of it.

If I am a new Christian, somewhat ignorant of the word, and I'm struggling to stay away from worldliness and the lusts of the flesh...

Then boom! Here comes this soul-murdering antichrist to lay the death blow to the little helpless lamb. "Go sin. Not that bad of consequences."

Further, this kind of talk sows discord and forces a confrontation in our midst...while the world goes to hell around us!

Soul murderers!
Right. Tell them that hell is no big deal. It's not like you'll be there forever. You'll barely have enough time to shake hands and catch-up with all your friends before you are out on the streets of gold. So, why not relax and enjoy yourselves. All this forever-hell nonsense was just a bad translation. Nothing to worry about. We all know that God is loving and forgiving. The folks that made God out to be a monster are the ones that should burn, right? (parody)
 
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Right. Tell them that hell is no big deal. It's not like you'll be there forever. You'll barely have enough time to shake hands and catch-up with all your friends before you are out on the streets of gold. So, why not relax and enjoy yourselves. All this forever-hell nonsense was just a bad translation. Nothing to worry about. We all know that God is loving and forgiving. The folks that made God out to be a monster are the ones that should burn, right? (parody)
It basically comes down to this...

There are those who gather and those who scatter. There are those who share liberation from sin and there are those who share liberation from God. There are those who wish to take as many people possible with us to heaven by preaching truth and there are wolves who do the opposite. Our Lord told us of this beforehand. Thank God we know His voice! Protect the precious little ones...
 
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If there’s no hell then we can do whatever we want. We can run around fornicating and murdering people and get off scot free.....
There's some good news. I better get with it. I have a lot of catching up to do. lol
 
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It basically comes down to this...

There are those who gather and those who scatter. There are those who share liberation from sin and there are those who share liberation from God. There are those who wish to take as many people possible with us to heaven by preaching truth and there are wolves who do the opposite. Our Lord told us of this beforehand. Thank God we know His voice! Protect the precious little ones...
I'm not sure where these guys are coming from. I don't think there is a periphery translation cult with the goal of leading the masses to a momentary and tolerable hell, but then what do they want? I was thinking this whole thing smacks of the occult. Some secret hidden knowledge only available to the chosen few. Just to be clear, I'm not claiming they are involved with the occult, but the secret knowledge aspect is very similar.
 
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, exposing these people (as well as others espousing heresies such as "easy believism" for instance) is incredibly simple in the light of God's word. Just shine it right on them!

They love their own lives to the death. They have latched onto an escape hatch. God always allows those who love darkness an escape hatch (until the last day, that is, when no place will be found for them). Jesus healed on the sabbath...instant escape hatch, lest they see and hear. So in many ways, as tragic as it is, they go in search of a way to keep their life.

But the time is coming when those who have rejected the covering of God will find their fig leaves lacking. And they will stand naked before an eternal God who demands eternal retribution.

God divides light from darkness. Those wishing to remain in darkness have not hearkened to the voice of God. And they lie.
 
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, exposing these people (as well as others espousing heresies such as "easy believism" for instance) is incredibly simple in the light of God's word. Just shine it right on them!

They love their own lives to the death. They have latched onto an escape hatch. God always allows those who love darkness an escape hatch (until the last day, that is, when no place will be found for them). Jesus healed on the sabbath...instant escape hatch, lest they see and hear. So in many ways, as tragic as it is, they go in search of a way to keep their life.

But the time is coming when those who have rejected the covering of God will find their fig leaves lacking. And they will stand naked before an eternal God who demands eternal retribution.

God divides light from darkness. Those wishing to remain in darkness have not hearkened to the voice of God. And they lie.
I don't see this as a salvation issue. And as I said earlier, I don't think these folks are organizing themselves against believers. This is a gray area. A person is free to believe as they wish on the subject of the nature of hell. So, I'm not ready to throw these guys COMPLETELY under the bus. I would certainly voice a cautionary word about the danger they may be causing to searching souls. But... well you get the idea.
 
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I don't see this as a salvation issue. And as I said earlier, I don't think these folks are organizing themselves against believers. This is a gray area. A person is free to believe as they wish on the subject of the nature of hell. So, I'm not ready to throw these guys COMPLETELY under the bus. I would certainly voice a cautionary word about the danger they may be causing to searching souls. But... well you get the idea.

I disagree. I think these kinds of heresies are very dangerous. The existence of eternal punishment is one of the foundational principles of the gospel. The creeds testify that Christ is coming in judgment. If there is no hell then there is no purpose for judgement and the creeds are null and void. I would say that this is a salvation issue and one of the basic core tenants of the gospel.
 
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I disagree. I think these kinds of heresies are very dangerous. The existence of eternal punishment is one of the foundational principles of the gospel. The creeds testify that Christ is coming in judgment. If there is no hell then there is no purpose for judgement and the creeds are null and void. I would say that this is a salvation issue and one of the basic core tenants of the gospel.
Thanks. I appreciate your response and the general support we share here.

Heresy seems strong. Part of me hopes that they are correct. (probably not though) They did have some compelling scriptural answers, though admittedly weak. (I'm mildly conflicted on this) Hopefully you would agree with me that a forever burning hell is something we could do without. But wishful thinking will not make it go away. Reality is reality. We can't nix hell based on a general dislike of the idea.

And I wonder how the judgment will work. Especially for those who have frankly never even heard of Christ or those who have been misled by bad leaders.
 
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