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Why are so many Catholics anti-Protestant? (2)

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While there may be some bias against Protestantism in the larger Catholic world, in my opinion what you describe is largely a phenomenon of internet forums, where anonymity lowers people's normal inhibitions. But also the stronger personalities and extreme opinions tend to get more attention.

I certainly agree in general with that observation about the internet, but Bill was trying to tell us that it didn't exist anywhere or that there was only some unemotional, academic disagreement with Protestant theology.

In addition, the thread asks about "anti-Protestant" attitudes, not hate or extreme opinions. While I am loathe to make a blanket statement, I do know plenty of Catholics who look down on Protestants as stupid, libertines, or rebels against all authority, etc.--and that has nothing to do with the internet.
 
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I certainly agree in general with that observation about the internet, but Bill was trying to tell us that it didn't exist anywhere or that there was only some unemotional, academic disagreement with Protestant theology.

In addition, the thread asks about "anti-Protestant" attitudes, not hate or extreme opinions. While I am loathe to make a blanket statement, I do know plenty of Catholics who look down on Protestants as stupid, libertines, or rebels against all authority, etc.--and that has nothing to do with the internet.
I believe I said that I didn't know of any Catholics who hated Protestantism. Maybe someday I'll meet many who do hate it.

Sure, doctrinal disagreement can evoke strong emotions. I felt many of them, too until I got used to the potentially offensive things I hear from some non-Catholics who criticize unknowingly their misconceptions about Catholicism. To see what kinds of criticism I mean, read tracts from Chick Publications, Chick, Michael Scheiffler's Bible Light Homepage, information from Dr. Bart Brewer's Mission to Catholics ministry, an official document from the Lutheran Missouri Synod that says that the pope or the papacy is the Antichrist, and tracts that warn Catholics that, if they remain Catholic, they'll go to hell.

Are the Catholic Church's non-Catholic critics well-intentioned when they do these things? I don't know. So I give them the benefit of the doubt. Many get secondhand misinformation from trusted pastors, trusted friends, and others who get their information from other inaccurate non-Catholic sources. With some misinformation I've read, it's no wonder the critics may hate their false beliefs about my religion.

I'm not trying to hijack this thread. I'm suggesting that falsehoods and caricatures are part of the problem, even when critics mean well when they criticize Protestantism, Catholicism, or any other belief system that they don't understand. In our politically correct era, many don't know the difference between hateful comments and genuinely kind, genuinely loving ones that they hate to hear.
 
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I believe I said that I didn't know of any Catholics who hated Protestantism.
Yes, but the topic here is not "Do all Catholics hate Protestants?" You answered that question of your own making as a way of NOT answering the question that was asked. I completely believe that you don't know any Catholics who "hate" Protestants, but what of all those who -- as the question of the thread asks-- are "anti-Protestant?"

That's right; there are plenty who may not hate Protestants but do look down on them, ridicule them, consider them to be "playing at church," and the like.

Then too, I see, you take the time to include in your reply to me a bunch of reasons, true or not, that are supposed to justify anti-Protestantism. Good grief! Would you like to make my point for me with a few more such claims? :sigh:
 
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Yes, but the topic here is not "Do all Catholics hate Protestants?" You answered that question of your own making as a way of NOT answering the question that was asked. I completely believe that you don't know any Catholics who "hate" Protestants, but what of all those who -- as the question of the thread asks-- are "anti-Protestant?"

That's right; there are plenty who may not hate Protestants but do look down on them, ridicule them, consider them to be "playing at church," and the like.

Then too, I see, you take the time to include in your reply to me a bunch of reasons, true or not, that are supposed to justify anti-Protestantism. Good grief! Would you like to make my point for me with a few more such claims? :sigh:
There are Catholics who don't hate Protestantism. Maybe many do, but I believe the word "anti-Protestantism" is still too vague. So I asked what it meant when I first posted to this thread.

Here in the U.S., many liberals will call you an anti-Semite if you tell them that to go to Heaven, Jews need to accept Christ. Others will insist that you hate homosexuals when you're against same-sex marriage or when you say that homosexual acts are always immoral. Those liberals will accuse you of anti-something-or-other to imply that you hate the people they think you're against. They'll also ignore the difference between judging a person and judging his actions, his beliefs, or both.

Those American liberals seem to believe that tolerance is approval, lack of disapproval, or indifference. Say you tolerate the way I disturb the peace when I play an opera CD loudly enough to awaken you and my other neighbors at 5:00 a.m. Then you're enduring something that's not okay. You're not being indifferent to it. The original meaning of the verb "to tolerate" was something like, "to endure an evil to prevent a greater one or to get a greater good." Tolerant people put up with what they don't like.

Do I hate Islam? No, but I am against it because I think it includes false doctrines. Nor do I hate Muslims. I love them with Christ's love. I live by an important principle, too: Respect people, not false beliefs. My false beliefs probably outnumber my true ones, which helps explain why I'll reject any of them when someone or something convinces me that I'm mistaken. But I refuse to respect even my own misconceptions.

For years, I belonged to Protestant youth groups, attended Protestant Bible studies, and talked with Protestants. An evangelical acquaintance of mine assured me, "We all love Jesus. That's all that matters." To me, opinions like that one suggest that their believers need to care much more about truth. For me, truth is infinitely more important than anyone's freedom to believe anything he wants to believe. Christ warns us that the world will hate us because we follow Him. Yes, my friends, sometimes someone else's hatred shows that we're doing something right.

I'll listen to other people, I'll learn all I can learn from them, I'll even be grateful when they prove me wrong. I will never be tolerant when tolerance is approval, lack of disapproval, or indifference. Neither will you, I hope.
 
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There are Catholics who don't hate Protestantism.
We long ago agreed to that, but it still isn't what the question of the thread asked.

Maybe many do, but I believe the word "anti-Protestantism" is still too vague. So I asked what it meant when I first posted to this thread.
And I not only answered that--several times--but gave examples, too. Why not address them?
 
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Somebody needs to teach me a crash course about acronyms. What does "LLOJ" mean, "liters of lousy orange juice?" ;)

LLOJ is an acronym for LittleLambofJesus , a fellow member here at CF. LLOJ is known far and wide for his ability to resuscitate dying threads, and bring back dead ones from the grave. ;)
 
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Mark, I'm infamous for my Frankenstein impersonations and for repeating myself, repeating myself, repeating myself. I already know and I agree that some Catholics don't hate Protestants. But I kept resurrecting that fact. To be concise from now on, I better post in a computer programming language. In the C programming language, "x++"can mean "add 1 to x's vaue." So does "x += 1". To coin my own artificial sentence, I could write n^2["repeating myself] to say repeat the phrase "repeating myself" n-squared times for any value of n. How's that for compact redundancy?
 
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Oops. I should have said, "my Dr. Frankenstein" or "Dr. Fronkensteen". Haha.

Have you noticed that this board's server won't let newbies post a link, even when they try to quote them in replies? Grrrr.

Yup. 50 posts then you are good to go. It defeats spam-bots.:);):thumbsup:
 
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Yup. 50 posts then you are good to go. It defeats spam-bots.:);):thumbsup:
The server could do what servers do at other sites, ask a poster to type some characters that I spam-bot would ignore. I haven't written any message board software, but I can think up about three or four ways to make a computer pick characters pseudo-randomly. Thank God I quite programming professionally. Here ends the digression. :)
 
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The server could do what servers do at other sites, ask a poster to type some characters that I spam-bot would ignore. I haven't written any message board software, but I can think up about three or four ways to make a computer pick characters pseudo-randomly. Thank God I quite programming professionally. Here ends the digression. :)

Thank God I quit programming, period (harkens back to the days of the TI-99.;)
 
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i wasn't aware that catholics disliked protestants if im honest its never been an issue where i live ....
In the U.S., many liberals use the word "hate" often enough that I don't know what they mean by it. Maybe that's because I almost obsess my need to write precisely. I even know of some people who thought a synonym for "miserly" was the N-word.
 
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Thank God I quit programming, period (harkens back to the days of the TI-99.;)
A friend of mine still loves his ancient Comadore 64.

How's this code?

Code:
static char a_security_character(void)
{
   srand();
   return "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXTZ0123456789"[random_integer(0, 35)];
}

static void coin_security_word(char word[], const int length)
{
   register int counter;

   strcpy(word, "");
   for (counter = 0; counter < length; counter++)
       word[counter] = a_security_character();

   word[counter] = '\0';
}
 
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A friend of mine still loves his ancient Comadore 64.

How's this code?

Code:
static char a_security_character(void)
{
   srand();
   return "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXTZ0123456789"[random_integer(0, 35)];
}

static void coin_security_word(char word[], const int length)
{
   register int counter;

   strcpy(word, "");
   for (counter = 0; counter < length; counter++)
       word[counter] = a_security_character();

   word[counter] = '\0';
}

It's been so long; I'll take it as wrote.:):thumbsup:
 
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