The point I was making is that it seems in reformed theology and person live their life as an active Christian and bear fruit, and then find out they're going to hell because they weren't predestined to be one of the elect.Good day, Ordinary Christian
Thanks for the discussion, I am not sure how grammatically you come to your interpretation...
Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
The verb (Knew) clearly Jesus himself says did not do. " I never knew you" He said it to them.
The text is very clear IMHO.
What you describe here is known as Double predestination.
I would contend the Scripture is clear the sinner does not need any thing to end up in eternal torment he goes based on his own sin.
RC cover that here: Is Double Predestination Biblical?
Not sure if you have read this on the issue: Martin Luther: Double Or Nothing
Thanks again.
In Him,
Bill
As for double predestination, that seems like a six of one and a half dozen of the other situation. Meaning the outcome is the same either way.
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