Why are SDA so paraoid of Jesuits?

[VolRaider]

That would depend on which pope you're asking about; some were kind of political appointees more than merit chosen.

I like your multicoloured posts with heaps of underlining and bold text, it reminds me of modern art work, all colour and shapes without much to catch the eye as a recognisable object. Keep up the good work, I may frame some of them as abstract art and sell them

Kind of reminds me of USA Today.

 

[Rhamiel]

I do not see why so much debate is coming up over the term "dark ages"

while not the most charitable term, it is not totally inaccurate

after the rise of Islam and the falling apart of the Roman Empire there was a significant dip in both the standard of living in Europe (due to the Silk Road trade routs to the East being cut off by Islamic) and a lack of political stability (due to the absence of the Roman Empire)

there was a lot of bad stuff in that time period
there was also a lot of good stuff...
lol kinda like all periods of human history

 

[Lollerskates]

Thanks for that info.
I found this about them doing a google search:

Global Insights


Now, what about the Founding Fathers of the United States?
Something like 98% of the Founding Fathers of the United States were MASONS.
Their main religious affiliation was UNITARIAN.

The rest were either Catholic or Church of England. If you will look at the Masonic rolls of Boston (MA), New York (NY), Philadelphia (PA), Richmond (VA) and a dozen other cities lining the east coast, it reads like a Who’s Who in American History.
Many of the historical figures who came to help The Colonies in their break from England (e.g. Lafayette from France and Polaski from Poland) were also Masons. In fact, many of the officers who were fighting on the British side were also Masons. Masons, at that time, were DEISTS. A deist is one who believes that a God created the world but that same God doesn’t interfere with it. Most Christians are theists. A theist sees God interfering with or can interfere with what’s happening in the world. (This isn’t any different than the Pagans who believed that the gods interfered with the lives of humans.)
In other words, the Founding Fathers of this country saw that what happens here was up to them. It wasn’t God’s will that The Colonies break away from England. It wasn’t God’s will that there be a United States of America. Nor was Manifest Destiny God’s will. It wasn’t God’s will that the United States eventually become a world power.....................

http://www.christianforums.com/t7594514-4/
Freemasonry, Illuminati NWO




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Nice from Shulamite.

As for HAARP, that is just weather and seismic modification. A weather machine. It could be used to fake Messiah coming, but there are other projects for that.

Unfortunately, most of the societies mentioned harbor "lower levelers" - presidents, senators, czars, kings, queens, musicians, preachers/etc. (yes preachers/ministers/rabbis), scientists, and so on... Their job is to mold consciousness, and establish orders. The funny thing is that because so many people are involved, there is no way to keep this thing a secret. So, it is expressed in movies, art, masonry, music, and most any for of media in symbolic form. Most of it is put out because the groups know most people will think nothing of it, and the people that may see even a small pattern will be scoffed at and dealt with by the majority. Hence the saying, "...the large secrets are kept by public incredulity. "

The real ones to worry about are unheard of, and most likely never will be.

 

[Rhamiel]

The funny thing here is you're right in a most abstract and general way, in that the cabal Albert Pike started in masonry, was in league with Giuseppe Mazzini.

I do not think that Mazzini was a Jesuit, he was opposed to the Papal States while the Jesuits swear an oath of obediance to the Pope

I am not familiar with Mazzini, but from what little I have read he seems like a secularist/republican (in the classical meaning of the word "supports republics", not the American Political party of the same name)

Albert Pike also had ties to the KKK i believe?
an anti-Catholic terrorist group (though they are more famous for their racial violence agianst African Americans they also terrorized Catholics, Jews, Immagrents and Northern "carpet baggers")

 

[Lollerskates]

The funny thing here is you're right in a most abstract and general way, in that the cabal Albert Pike started in masonry, was in league with Giuseppe Mazzini.

Most people are nowhere near ready for Albert Pike. If they were, the things building up to war going on now, and in the past 60 years would be no surprise.

Or this:

Massive 'Solomon's Temple' In Brazil Is Set to Open July 31st 2014! - YouTube

According to exact specifications...

In Brasil (Kansas City Shuffle.)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Most people are nowhere near ready for Albert Pike. If they were, the things building up to war going on now, and in the past 60 years would be no surprise.

Or this:

Massive 'Solomon's Temple' In Brazil Is Set to Open July 31st 2014! - YouTube

According to exact specifications...

In Brasil (Kansas City Shuffle.)

Interesting. Isn't that where a lot of WW 2 Nazi big wigs moved to after the war?
Anywho, I believe a lot of this NWO stuff bandied about makes for interesting reading, but has absolutely nothing to do with Bible prophecy, IMHO.
There is an interesting thread on Somomon's Temple/Herod's Temple here, which the Jews should be more interested in than us lowly Gentile Christians ehehe:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7832073-5/#post65977084
Solomon's Temple Spiritualized


1. The outer gates / walls - Justification - We enter in the gate by faith
2. The Altar - Christ is our sacrifice
3. The Laver - Sanctification - Catechism if you will.
(lets go through the door into the inner temple)
4. Table of Shewbread - The word of God - Spiritual food for you!
5. The Lightstand- Spiritual light - Faith, hope, charity, joy, warmth... etc.
6. The Altar of Golden Incense - Prayer and praise
7. The Holy of Holies - The Baptism of the Holy Spirit - The Anointing/Chrisma

 

[Lollerskates]

Interesting. Isn't that where a lot of WW 2 Nazi big wigs moved to after the war?

YES. Uruguay, Paraguay, places like that, that may be beach front property soon. Except the scientists... the United States got most of them. But, the UK and Russia got some too.

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anywho, I believe a lot of this NWO stuff bandied about makes for interesting reading, but has absolutely nothing to do with Bible prophecy, IMHO.

Yes, pretty much. The NWO is a distraction. This coming world war that will seem like "Armageddon," is a distraction. Any "creature" on this planet right now thought to be antichrist is a distraction. The coming war(s) are going to be so atrocious and devestating, and the fake Antichrist will be so convincing in the interim that when everything settles, people will be begging for a supernatural savior - enter the "Real Deal." The fake antichrist will be made to look as so so that the real one will look like Messiah by comparison. IMO, anyway.

There is an interesting thread on Somomon's Temple/Herod's Temple here, which the Jews should be more interested in than us lowly Gentile Christians ehehe:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7832073-5/#post65977084
Solomon's Temple Spiritualized


1. The outer gates / walls - Justification - We enter in the gate by faith
2. The Altar - Christ is our sacrifice
3. The Laver - Sanctification - Catechism if you will.
(lets go through the door into the inner temple)
4. Table of Shewbread - The word of God - Spiritual food for you!
5. The Lightstand- Spiritual light - Faith, hope, charity, joy, warmth... etc.
6. The Altar of Golden Incense - Prayer and praise
7. The Holy of Holies - The Baptism of the Holy Spirit - The Anointing/Chrisma

Very interesting.

I wouldn't be surprised at all. I am inclined to believe that since God said our bodies are temples, and that the body of the Church is believers, that Israel is to no longer about genetic Hebrews, whomever they may be. And, since one has to be born as a human (water,) then in faith (spirit,) then the Hebrews of Israel are not about a mere physical body or location. In other words, Israel is here now; once that clicks in (sealing,) then the real games begin. The Church is no longer a solely physical, carnal entity - we have been upgraded.

So just to quasi stay on topic, there is more than enough to be paranoid about other than the lowly Jesuits .

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

So just to quasi stay on topic, there is more than enough to be paranoid about other than the lowly Jesuits .

Roger that!

Job 19:15
One sojourning of house of me and maid-servants of me, to alien they are reckoning me,
foreign-one I became in eyes of them.

Will Smith - Men In Black (HQ) - YouTube

 

[Lollerskates]

Roger that!

Job 19:15
One sojourning of house of me and maid-servants of me, to alien they are reckoning me,
foreign-one I became in eyes of them.

Will Smith - Men In Black (HQ) - YouTube

They Live.

 

[Rick Otto]

I do not think that Mazzini was a Jesuit, he was opposed to the Papal States while the Jesuits swear an oath of obediance to the Pope

I am not familiar with Mazzini, but from what little I have read he seems like a secularist/republican (in the classical meaning of the word "supports republics", not the American Political party of the same name)

Albert Pike also had ties to the KKK i believe?
an anti-Catholic terrorist group (though they are more famous for their racial violence agianst African Americans they also terrorized Catholics, Jews, Immagrents and Northern "carpet baggers")

Yeah, the KKK was used by these one world government enthusiasts to corral and manipulate hatred. Extremist groups convince the public of the need for more government.
This blog talks about the globalist power structure between ecclesiastical, monarchical, and financial sectors
The Vatican uses the Rothschilds to manage its wealth.
Race, creed, and nationality are all pretty much second fiddle to power at that level.

 

[Rhamiel]

Yeah, the KKK was used by these one world government enthusiasts to corral and manipulate hatred. Extremist groups convince the public of the need for more government.
This blog talks about the globalist power structure between ecclesiastical, monarchical, and financial sectors
The Vatican uses the Rothschilds to manage its wealth.
Race, creed, and nationality are all pretty much second fiddle to power at that level.

well the Rothschilds were used by most of the countries in Europe as bankers, nothing odd about this

I do not think the KKK was "used" by the NWO
atleast not in the way you think

I think that the KKK was just a white supremacist Protestant terrorist group

sometimes things are just as they seem

 

[Rick Otto]

well the Rothschilds were used by most of the countries in Europe as bankers, nothing odd about this

I do not think the KKK was "used" by the NWO
atleast not in the way you think

I think that the KKK was just a white supremacist Protestant terrorist group

sometimes things are just as they seem

You find nothing odd about the Vatican choosing a Jewish banker instead of an RC banker.
I find that odd.
I know the world seems a lot safer when we judge it by appearances.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Everybody knows that the Rothschild banking system was secret Jesuit plot. So was the KKK. It's all part of the time-traveling-Jesuit-creation-of-Islam subplot in the vast Jesuit conspiracy to rule a 80% depopulated world

Beware of those seed sackless angelic gene splicers. They are the tools of the Jesuit secret Superior General who rules the known Superior General and has a shiny military uniform.

I know this is true because it is all written in the ultra secret revelation given to the Jesuit Prophet Ellen G White. Honest

 

[Rhamiel]

You find nothing odd about the Vatican choosing a Jewish banker instead of an RC banker.
I find that odd.
I know the world seems a lot safer when we judge it by appearances.

I think the Popes also had Jewish shoe makers for a few generations too

the Papal States were a country, they had all kinds of people working for them, in Europe at that time the Rothschilds were the best people to have as your bankers
they had banks all over Europe, they were great diplomats

 

[Rick Otto]

Everybody knows that the Rothschild banking system was secret Jesuit plot. So was the KKK. It's all part of the time-traveling-Jesuit-creation-of-Islam subplot in the vast Jesuit conspiracy to rule a 80% depopulated world

Beware of those seed sackless angelic gene splicers. They are the tools of the Jesuit secret Superior General who rules the known Superior General and has a shiny military uniform.

I know this is true because it is all written in the ultra secret revelation given to the Jesuit Prophet Ellen G White. Honest

Then you've accepted it despite not reading all the reputable sources.
...And without drinking as much coffee as you put-on to!
Oh my! Who shall I trust?
The religion that is a nation-state with a money laundering bank?
That would make more sense than believing men conspire to do evil!

 

[Rick Otto]

I think the Popes also had Jewish shoe makers for a few generations too

the Papal States were a country, they had all kinds of people working for them, in Europe at that time the Rothschilds were the best people to have as your bankers
they had banks all over Europe, they were great diplomats

And they did it all by good, honest hard work.

I have to learn to judge by appearances and stop suspecting people of anything but noble motives, I guess.

 

[Lollerskates]

I think the Rothschilds, a few Rockefellers, DuPont, and Astors are the only surviving. Kennedys and Onassis', along with the Li's (or Lees) and the others were wiped out.

 

[Rhamiel]

And they did it all by good, honest hard work.

I have to learn to judge by appearances and stop suspecting people of anything but noble motives, I guess.

probably not all that they did was "good and honest"

they are bankers after all haha

but we do not have to look to NWO to imagine why
bribes, greed, nepotism

that is easy enough to see why corruption happens without needing some crazy NWO theory

 

[Lollerskates]

probably not all that they did was "good and honest"

they are bankers after all haha

but we do not have to look to NWO to imagine why
bribes, greed, nepotism

that is easy enough to see why corruption happens without needing some crazy NWO theory

A lot of corruption happens because we allow it collectively...

Last I checked, 99% was more than 1%. Does there need to be another "proletariat vs bourgeoisie" consciousness? Does it really have to get that "in your face" before people care to care?

Marx and Kafka would be thinking "I told you so" about this world of today.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I think the Rothschilds, a few Rockefellers, DuPont, and Astors are the only surviving.
Kennedys and Onassis', along with the Li's (or Lees) and the others were wiped out.

I like both of them


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