I don't think god is being scoffed at, its this word supernatural that is being scoffed at. Have you even concidered god put the quark particle there? Got to get away that all this nonsense that god has magic powers.
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It's also the tale end of Revolver Ocelots speech in Metal Gear Solid 2.
What I find interesting is we have no issue crediting a multitude of designers, engineers and inventors of tangible objects. Yet absolutely scoff at the idea of God being the grand designer of the universe to the point of inventing (there's that word again) our own theories on how everything came to be under its own power from a supposed quark particle.
"God forbid there is a God"
So would they...Actually i call it common sense.
If you don't like that vid.... just go online and pick any of the many demonic magician video's of the others that I have mentioned.... Sorry that the editing was not up to your standards.
I don't even know what you are trying to state here. I'm simply stating that there are magicians out there that obviously use demonic entities to perform their work.
Harry Potter is just one link in a chain.. a link that brings occult, spells, power, supernatural abilities to an audience that is eager for such things. All the while, the parents are asleep at the wheel of guiding the spiritual destination of their children.
Well, I believe that you have been fooled by the oldest and most deceptive of all...Look mate, its just all just trickery and illusion, nothing demonic about any of it. I will have a look at some of your vids and tell you how the trick was done.
Harry Potter is just one link in a chain.. a link that brings occult, spells, power, supernatural abilities to an audience that is eager for such things. All the while, the parents are asleep at the wheel of guiding the spiritual destination of their children.
Its just harmless fun.
Things like spells and position's are often based on real science.
Yes this is at the heart of this matter. Travelling closer to Jesus will change your tastes and desires. It will also change the way you view worldly pleasures.
Many folks feel that this area of life is somehow off territory to the Holy Spirit and they can like what they like.
The idea of Him wanting to redeem our tastes and preferences is not taught. By this means He guides us away from the matters tainted by the enemy, things that in the natural seemed OK.
I think a lot of Christians are so accepting of it because they sincerely don't see the harm in it. They seem to believe magic can be fictionalized. And they're not completely wrong about that.In so much of our media and entertainment such as books, television shows, movies, video games and even music, magic is something that isn't used sparingly throughout the list of "creative" ideas to the world. In fact, it's getting harder to deter away from entertainment that doesn't contain some type of occult idea that defies the Truths of God.
When I first became a Christian, this was a big conviction for me as I wasn't into practicing anything occultic nor did I even believe it was true, however I was influenced by occult ideas based off of the media I was consuming, whether I had known it or not. As this was one of my very first convictions and I was strongly led by the Holy Spirit to turn from these things, I quickly saw how this wasn't the case for a majority of others. When things like Disney and Harry Potter are so popular, even among professing Christians, I'm left wondering how can this be so?
Talk to any born again believer who has come out of the new age movement and they understand how serious this is, because they've seen how far too real the deception of the enemy is to be lenient with these kinds of ideas, even at the expense of their own pleasure. In Revelation 21:8 the Bible says that sorcerers will have their part in the lake of fire. If this is taken seriously by God to include these kinds of people in the lake of fire, then why aren't the very ideas and practices that will put these people in the lake of fire, taken more seriously among Christians?
Oh, I didn't remember reading that in your first post. I personally think you're wrong about the books not being allegorical, though. In The Voyage of the Dawn Treader he appears as a lamb and tells the children that he brought them to Narnia in order that they would recognize him better in their own world. I think C. S. Lewis pretty much summarized the intent of the whole series in that scene. Namely, that after reading the books people would realize that Aslan is really just a characterization of God / Jesus. So that's definitely an allegory.
About the magic book and spells, Aslan never said he was happy about Lucy making him visible. He was happy because she hugged him. The one confusing part is that Lucy says it's silly to think she could have actually done anything to make him visible, but Alsan replies that he has to follow his own rules. I wasn't sure what to make of that, but I assumed Lewis was making a comparison between the spells in Narnia and prayer on earth and saying something like if we ask for God to make Himself visible in our world, through movements of the Spirit, He will answer that prayer. But maybe I'm just reading into it too much...
That article you linked does bring up some interesting things... I never read many other books by Lewis, but my parents loved Mere Christianity and Surprised by Joy. They are also very solid, biblical Christians who wouldn't even think of reading something that seems to support the occult or universalism. So I want to see those quotes in their full context before making a conclusion.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. Now back to the movies.
When I first became a christian I put my TV in the closet and I did not watch it at all. When I finally did watch TV again, it was to watch the Olympics or something that I did not feel would interfere with my walk with God.I was strongly led by the Holy Spirit to turn from these things
The Bible is still going to condemn the sin of sorcery despite C.S. Lewis saying otherwise in his books.
Where does he say this... please quote.
Where does he say this... please quote.
In so much of our media and entertainment such as books, television shows, movies, video games and even music, magic is something that isn't used sparingly throughout the list of "creative" ideas to the world. In fact, it's getting harder to deter away from entertainment that doesn't contain some type of occult idea that defies the Truths of God.
When I first became a Christian, this was a big conviction for me as I wasn't into practicing anything occultic nor did I even believe it was true, however I was influenced by occult ideas based off of the media I was consuming, whether I had known it or not. As this was one of my very first convictions and I was strongly led by the Holy Spirit to turn from these things, I quickly saw how this wasn't the case for a majority of others. When things like Disney and Harry Potter are so popular, even among professing Christians, I'm left wondering how can this be so?
Talk to any born again believer who has come out of the new age movement and they understand how serious this is, because they've seen how far too real the deception of the enemy is to be lenient with these kinds of ideas, even at the expense of their own pleasure. In Revelation 21:8 the Bible says that sorcerers will have their part in the lake of fire. If this is taken seriously by God to include these kinds of people in the lake of fire, then why aren't the very ideas and practices that will put these people in the lake of fire, taken more seriously among Christians?
From what I can tell it is from not enough studying Word of God and too much following the ideas of media which is ran by the evil one
Mmmm... So no place for allegorical fantasy for introducing Christian themes.
I don't see Lewis condoning witchcraft in real life.
Paganism, as a world view, is not entirely depraved I would have thought. Same with any world view, usually a mix of good and bad.
We are not so good at sifting out the good in other world views. Sure without the Love of Jesus they come to nothing but they can still contain principles that are relevant and useful.
1 Cor 13 shows us that noble acts without Jesus love have no eternal value.
3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
This does not mean that here is no value in feeding the poor.
So Lewis seemed to identify aspects of Pagan life that were noble.
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