Why are most christians against asylum seekers?

[The Hammer of Witches]

First, because most "asylum seekers" are not seeking asylum.

Second, because the "asylum seekers" are overwhelmingly Muslim men of fighting age.

Third, because the asylum seekers are disproportionately Muslim.

Fourth, because we're already being overwhelmed with illegal aliens crossing our border and a government who will not enforce the law.

This

 

[Luke17:37]

Why it seems most Christians are against asylum seekers? For the political parties most Chrisitans support are the parties who are are openly stating to deport asylum seekers and even refuse to accomodate people that have fled their own countries due to war and persecution. Anyway Jesus Christ himself was a refugee.

It seems the people I personally know that are most passionate about the rights of asylum seekers are not Christian at all. Unlike some Chrisitans I come accross who believe that asylum seekers should be deported from the country.

People are letting their fear of men overshadow their fear of God.

 

[pat34lee]

What would be some examples of this? I'm especially excited to hear about a "take over" taking place anywhere in the world!

How have you lived the last 20 years without learning anything
about the world at large, or do you just ignore everything the
Muslims are doing?

Britain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nghy-African-migrants-sank-Mediterranean.html

The US
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/milwaukee-a-somali-muslim-enclave-grows/

Australia
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/04/06/australian-sharia-and-dhimmitude/

 

[pat34lee]

People are letting their fear of men overshadow their fear of God.

You should read the sections in Ezekiel and Isaiah concerning the watchman.
http://www.gospelforchristians.com/2009/isaiah-and-ezekiel-watchmen/

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

People are letting their fear of men overshadow their fear of God.

People, even so-called "God's people", have been doing that ever since Jesus walked on earth,

and they then and now REFUSE TO FOLLOW HIM because they desire the approval of men instead of the approval of God.
THis includes all religions, as well as those without religion.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

How have you lived the last 20 years without learning anything
about the world at large, or do you just ignore everything the
Muslims are doing?

Britain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nghy-African-migrants-sank-Mediterranean.html

The US
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/milwaukee-a-somali-muslim-enclave-grows/

Australia
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/04/06/australian-sharia-and-dhimmitude/

Don't forget Sweden. They try to hide what's going on there, but it is now the rape capitol of of Europe.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Don't forget Sweden. They try to hide what's going on there, but it is now the rape capitol of of Europe.

Not pleasant tangent, but fits with "why 'christians' " .......
Why are doctors and priests and pastors guilty of rape more often than any other occupations ? And covered up more often ?
That being the case - those in power everywhere cover up their own sins and protect their own,
how or why would anyone (in power) welcome the refugees, except for show/ power/ corruption/ infiltration ?

 

[rambot]

How have you lived the last 20 years without learning anything
about the world at large, or do you just ignore everything the
Muslims are doing?

Britain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nghy-African-migrants-sank-Mediterranean.html

The US
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/milwaukee-a-somali-muslim-enclave-grows/

Australia
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/04/06/australian-sharia-and-dhimmitude/

Yeah, cause they are not taking over, that's why. I'm very aware of what the muslim extremists are doing. That's not the same as TAKING OVER A COUNTRY.
Relax drama kings.

 

[Luke17:37]

You should read the sections in Ezekiel and Isaiah concerning the watchman.
http://www.gospelforchristians.com/2009/isaiah-and-ezekiel-watchmen/

One thing interesting about Ezekiel is that he was sent to preach to his own people, the house of Israel, who should have known the truth about God. But their hearts were hard, and even though God commanded Ezekiel to preach, they mostly wouldn't listen.

 

[brinny]

I understand what wisdom is. I have done a lot of crisis intervention work.
I don't believe turning a blind eye to the vulnerable because you are worried about some nebulous threat from people who may OR may not exist is considered wisdom. I do not see the wisdom in not helping 30,000 people because 40 of them MAY be a threat (and that's a big may given that one cannot extrapolate numbers of "well X% of muslims align themselves with extremist ideology" and use it to define refugees. There is no "wisdom" being employed by doing that); that is STRAIGHT UP fear).

On the first few pages you post up stories about the TERRIBLE things ISIS has done around the world and fully believe those things will start to happen here if you let refugees in. I say, in no WAY, would that happen.

Catagorically, unequivocally, head-in-the-sand level false. Muslims are BY FAR, the largest victims of ISIS and that evil horde of marauders and you all are turning a blind eye to their plight. It is as simple as that. You can claim you are showing wisdom in doing so. I disagree.

And so isn't it telling that nonchristians are willing to help the afflicted, downtrodden and vulnerable while Christians talk about fear OVER love in the guise of wisdom?
Does it ever cross your mind that nonchristians may end up treating them better than Christians? And do you worry about what that says to nonchristians about the christian capacity for love?

And yet.... Romans 13:

You either didn't fully read my posts and/or didn't understand a single word i posted, did you?

 

[Luke17:37]

You either didn't fully read my posts and/or didn't understand a single word i posted, did you?

You posted this same thing before and he told you he read them. He just doesn't agree with you. It's condescending to assume he doesn't understand.

 

[brinny]

brinny said: ↑
You either didn't fully read my posts and/or didn't understand a single word i posted, did you?

You posted this same thing before and he told you he read them. He just doesn't agree with you. It's condescending to assume he doesn't understand.

Have you read all of the posts?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

First, because most "asylum seekers" are not seeking asylum.

Second, because the "asylum seekers" are overwhelmingly Muslim men of fighting age.

Third, because the asylum seekers are disproportionately Muslim.

Fourth, because we're already being overwhelmed with illegal aliens crossing our border and a government who will not enforce the law.

We have not been overwhelmed

 

[jimmyjimmy]

We have not been overwhelmed

They don't like the cold up there in OR. Come to my little corner of the United State of Mexico for a visit some time. Hospitals are overwhelmed. Schools systems are overwhelmed. Economies are overwhelmed.

 

[Albion]

We have not been overwhelmed

We cannot simply absorb (even if these people wanted that) the whole world into our country. We cannot afford it, and we cannot govern it. Even if we could do all of that, it is terribly unjust to take what our own taxpayers, many of them not all that prosperous themselves, paid for...and let unlimited numbers of immigrants help themselves to it free of charge.

 

[Winken]

Think about it...... and think about all the undocumented children being born.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...unauthorized-immigrant-population-profiles#AK

Think about the burden being born by American taxpayers.

Think about 40% of our nation on welfare.

Think about 40% of our nation no longer looking for work.

Think about 40% of children being born out of wedlock.

Think about every state suffering financial hardships.

Think about a $20,000,000,000,000 national debt.

Think about our inability to pay even the interest on our debt. We're paying interest on the interest on the interest on the........

 

[pat34lee]

One thing interesting about Ezekiel is that he was sent to preach to his own people, the house of Israel, who should have known the truth about God. But their hearts were hard, and even though God commanded Ezekiel to preach, they mostly wouldn't listen.

As with many prophets, tradition says they killed him. But they
kept the prophecies he gave, just in case.

 

[Luke17:37]

Have you read all of the posts?

Yes

 

[brinny]

brinny said: ↑
Have you read all of the posts?

Yes

Then you are aware that what has been posted is that the bottom line is that the continuing slaughter and atrocities that grow and spread is the issue, that is causing the refugees to flee in the first place.

You are also aware then, if you read all of the posts, that it is clear that Christians have been intervening with refugees and those in dire circumstances. They always have.

In addition you are aware then, that i have mentioned the story about the babies and the water a couple of times.

Are you familiar with it?

 

[MrsBrit]

Of course there are many Christians and Christian organisations out there to bring assistance to asylum seekers. and bring a great deal of help to them and I even see at at churches, however the loudest ones that are most opposed to asylum seekers in society are the ones that profess themselves as Christian.

Regarding ISIS and asylum seekers, a vast majority of people who claimed to be ISIS who committed terrorist attacks in Europe were born and grew up in Europe. Additionally the recent terrorist attack in Orlando was not an asylum seeker but born and bred in the USA.

The vast majority of asylum seeking, read economic immigrants, are the very people who have committed rapes and sexual molestation of women in Europe, one man who raped a 10 year old boy explained it was a sexual emergency since he'd left his wife back in the country he'd just left. They are not refugees, what sort of refugees come equipped with mobile phones and designer clothing. These are the same people who threw food and water onto train tracks because it came from the Red Cross, they objected to the Cross. They're frantically trying to get to the UK because the benefits are better there.
My question is since the majority of these people are young men, young angry men, why are they not fighting for the freedom of their countries. Many of them have left their families behind, presumable to deal with ISIS.
In WWI and II the young men of Britain fought the Nazis, they fought for the freedom of their country, joined by underground resistance in France, Poland, Belgium and other countries including the US. They didn't run away to find a country who would provide them with free housing and money to live on.
The Europe I know has disappeared, women have been warned not to go out at night without a male escort, that's like having Sharia law.
Welcoming "refugees" sounds as though it's something Christians should do but this is a very dangerous situation, these people have no respect for Christians, they have shown their intentions and become angry when their needs are not met. Some have returned to their countries because they don't like the weather in Europe.
Christian values are something to be proud of but these very values are being used against us.