Why are most christians against asylum seekers?

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Why it seems most Christians are against asylum seekers? For the political parties most Chrisitans support are the parties who are are openly stating to deport asylum seekers and even refuse to accomodate people that have fled their own countries due to war and persecution. Anyway Jesus Christ himself was a refugee.

It seems the people I personally know that are most passionate about the rights of asylum seekers are not Christian at all. Unlike some Chrisitans I come accross who believe that asylum seekers should be deported from the country.
 
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Why it seems most Christians are against asylum seekers? For the political parties most Chrisitans support are the parties who are are openly stating to deport asylum seekers and even refuse to accomodate people that have fled their own countries due to war and persecution. Anyway Jesus Christ himself was a refugee.

It seems the people I personally know that are most passionate about the rights of asylum seekers are not Christian at all. Unlike some Chrisitans I come accross who believe that asylum seekers should be deported from the country.
Because of the potential risk the asylum seekers aren't who they say they are, and actually are working for ISIS. ISIS cells have been found along migrant populations in Europe already.

Further, how many should be taken in? Considerations should be made for the local culture and how it will impact our own society if we take in too many.

Germany took in a whopping 1 million migrants.

Now the German minister has to issue a warning to migrants about polygamy and their child marriages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36537305

And I'm sure you've heard of the Cologne rapes where many women were sexually assaulted at a festival, by migrants who crowded around them.

And lastly, on Jesus being a refugee, where did He flee to? Ah yes, Egypt. Jesus didn't take a boat and go all the way to Britannia. He just went to a neighbouring country. There is no reason why the migrants have to travel all across Europe and pick their favourite country to settle down in.
 
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A huge number of refugees from the middle east are fleeing ISIS. Also Western intervetion in the middle East worsened the in refugee crisis. With Syrian Kurdish people, neighbouring Turkey is not a good place as the ethnic Kurds are discrimiated agianst and Turkey is at war against Kurdish seperatist and Turkey already hosts the largest amount of Middle Eastern refugees already. Additionally Lebanon size is similar to the smallest US states but holds more refugees than any European country. Also none of the refugees in Lebanon are allowed to work and there is a lot of restrictions for them anyway. Anyway there is a bible verse where one would treat foreign residents: Exodus 22:21, "You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt."
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Hebrews 13:1-2 Let brotherly love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

Besides I live in a country where there is families that are now livin 3 years in detention due to the attempts of fleeing to my country. The situation is very desperate there are suicides common there and other forms of abuse there. In addition even Christian converts from Islam are not exempt and at times sent back to their home countries.
 
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Taking in a bunch of these people is a security risk and it isn't like we are simply ignoring them because the US has donated a large amount of money to deal with the crisis. The government would be doing a disservice to the people who elected them by putting them at risk in this way. The goal should be to contain them until the war is over and then they can go back to their own country and with this being the goal, it wouldn't make sense to transport them pretty much as far away as possible from their country.

Germany has already shown us the consequences so we should learn from their mistakes instead of repeating them.
 
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Why it seems most Christians are against asylum seekers? For the political parties most Christians support are the parties who are are openly stating to deport asylum seekers and even refuse to accomodate people that have fled their own countries due to war and persecution. Anyway Jesus Christ himself was a refugee.

It seems the people I personally know that are most passionate about the rights of asylum seekers are not Christian at all. Unlike some Chrisitans I come accross who believe that asylum seekers should be deported from the country.

Most Christians I know support compassion towards asylum seekers. My own church runs games evenings and language courses to help these people out.

But it one thing to welcome Christians fleeing Muslim persecution or for that matter broken human beings fleeing Muslim persecution. It is another to oppose large scale economic migrations from failed muslim countries in North Africa or radical Islamic or criminal infiltration. Christians can be on both sides depending on their experiences but I think a proper Christian position must balance these considerations.
 
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And lastly, on Jesus being a refugee, where did He flee to? Ah yes, Egypt. Jesus didn't take a boat and go all the way to Britannia. He just went to a neighbouring country. There is no reason why the migrants have to travel all across Europe and pick their favourite country to settle down in.
According to your logic then people like Albert Einstein fled from Germany when Hitler in power should have moved to neighbouring Netherlands where a great deal of German Jewish refugees fled to when Hitler came into power instead of picking his favourte country at the time which was the USA.

Economic refugees is another thing and a big difference compared to those that flee persecution due to their ethnicity or culture as well due to their religion. Not all Syrian refugees do want to move to Europe and have no intention of moving there. What can help is greater humanitarian assistance from rich western European countries to aid the refugees fleeing to safe neighbouring countries.
 
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Why it seems most Christians are against asylum seekers? For the political parties most Chrisitans support are the parties who are are openly stating to deport asylum seekers and even refuse to accomodate people that have fled their own countries due to war and persecution. Anyway Jesus Christ himself was a refugee.

It seems the people I personally know that are most passionate about the rights of asylum seekers are not Christian at all. Unlike some Chrisitans I come accross who believe that asylum seekers should be deported from the country.

How much research have you done regarding asylum seekers and those who have helped them throughout history?
 
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It's because most Christians read the "they will know you by how you love one another" thing and interpreted it the opposite way.

Edit: as far as I can tell, anyway. The Christians in my life who aren't me are... often not very good people.
 
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It's because most Christians read the "they will know you by how you love one another" thing and interpreted it the opposite way.

Edit: as far as I can tell, anyway. The Christians in my life who aren't me are... often not very good people.

I'm sorry to heart that....
 
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How much research have you done regarding asylum seekers and those who have helped them throughout history?
Of course there are many Christians and Christian organisations out there to bring assistance to asylum seekers. and bring a great deal of help to them and I even see at at churches, however the loudest ones that are most opposed to asylum seekers in society are the ones that profess themselves as Christian.

Regarding ISIS and asylum seekers, a vast majority of people who claimed to be ISIS who committed terrorist attacks in Europe were born and grew up in Europe. Additionally the recent terrorist attack in Orlando was not an asylum seeker but born and bred in the USA.
 
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Of course there are many Christians and Christian organisations out there to bring assistance to asylum seekers. and bring a great deal of help to them and I even see at at churches, however the loudest ones that are most opposed to asylum seekers in society are the ones that profess themselves as Christian.

That is not always the case.
 
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That is not always the case.
True but there are people like Donald Trump who is against the settling of Syrian refugees in the USA and sees them as muslim and not all of them are Muslim. 10% of Syria population are Christian. Additionally Iraq has a large number of Christians as well and most of them fled the country. A large number have fled to Europe and beyond.
 
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Why it seems most Christians are against asylum seekers? For the political parties most Chrisitans support are the parties who are are openly stating to deport asylum seekers and even refuse to accomodate people that have fled their own countries due to war and persecution. Anyway Jesus Christ himself was a refugee.

It seems the people I personally know that are most passionate about the rights of asylum seekers are not Christian at all. Unlike some Chrisitans I come accross who believe that asylum seekers should be deported from the country.

First, because most "asylum seekers" are not seeking asylum.

Second, because the "asylum seekers" are overwhelmingly Muslim men of fighting age.

Third, because the asylum seekers are disproportionately Muslim.

Fourth, because we're already being overwhelmed with illegal aliens crossing our border and a government who will not enforce the law.
 
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True but there are people like Donald Trump who is against the settling of Syrian refugees in the USA and sees them as muslim and not all of them are Muslim. Where I live the only Syrians have ever met are Christian.

Do you know what Donald Trump actually said?
 
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It might be that those who oppose the refugees are more loudly vocal, so that they appear more numerous. In earlier decades, I remember churches welcoming Southeast Asian refugees in the 70s and Latin American refugees in the 80s. Thus far, the Syrian refugees seem mostly to be choosing Europe rather than North America as a destination, but I would certainly do my part to welcome Syrian families into my neighborhood and school system, sponsoring them the way churches did with Laotian and Cambodian refugees a generation ago, and I think most churches like mine would feel the same way.
 
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It might be that those who oppose the refugees are more loudly vocal, so that they appear more numerous. In earlier decades, I remember churches welcoming Southeast Asian refugees in the 70s and Latin American refugees in the 80s. Thus far, the Syrian refugees seem mostly to be choosing Europe rather than North America as a destination, but I would certainly do my part to welcome Syrian families into my neighborhood and school system, sponsoring them the way churches did with Laotian and Cambodian refugees a generation ago, and I think most churches like mine would feel the same way.

We had a large Laotian and Cambodian community when I lived in Texas. The difference is that they came here to be Americans. These "refugees" do not.
 
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Do you know what Donald Trump actually said?
“I’m putting the people on notice that are coming here from Syria as part of this mass migration, that if I win, if I win, they’re going back,” Mr. Trump told the crowd.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/01/trump-if-elected-ill-deport-syrian-refugees/
Yet meanwhile Trump now has 70% unapproval ratings so if an election was held today he will likely loose. That is another topic all together.

Also I like to add all the mass shootings done in America were by American citizens, not refugees or asylum seekers.
 
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“I’m putting the people on notice that are coming here from Syria as part of this mass migration, that if I win, if I win, they’re going back,” Mr. Trump told the crowd.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/01/trump-if-elected-ill-deport-syrian-refugees/
Yet meanwhile Trump now has 70% unapproval ratings so if an election was held today he will likely loose. That is another topic all together.

Also I like to add all the mass shootings done in America were by American citizens, not refugees or asylum seekers.

Trump has been saying repeatedly that he would put a halt to illegal immigration, build a wall, and stop ANY immigration right now because of the dire straits our country is in.

THAT is why he got the attention of so many Americans. He is the ONLY candidate up there who actually spoke about it.

The bottom line here, is that the issue that caused the reason for so many to leave in droves in the first place needs to be addressed.

By the way, you may want to re-examine your last sentence. The terrorist attack in Orlando was an Islamic terrorist attack.

Trump, 2016.
 
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