What would they like to see recognized as being Jewish enough for them?They are the Ultra Orthodox Jews; some of whom don't recognize Israel as Jewish enough for them.
Among Jews there are various tendencies; many Israelis are secular Jews rather than practising ones; and among the practising ones there are different tendencies also. Some religious Jews are even exempt from military service because they don't think the Israel Defence Forces defend an entity that is truly Jewish enough.What would they like to see recognized as being Jewish enough for them?
Being exempt from military duty places it in gvmt control it seems.Among Jews there are various tendencies; many Israelis are secular Jews rather than practising ones; and among the practising ones there are different tendencies also. Some religious Jews are even exempt from military service because they don't think the Israel Defence Forces defend an entity that is truly Jewish enough.
It's not so much of a practical expectation that other Jews become "more Jewish" as it is a mindset.
A lot of secular Jews do apparently resent the fact that the government allows some of the very strict Jews to be exempt from military service.Being exempt from military duty places it in gvmt control it seems.
Those Americans seem like they're trying to provoke the Jews. They shouldn't have done that.
If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...
Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)
And there are three varieties...
Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)
You cannot expect the proper spiritual energy and light out of either Jew or Gentile unless they have been endued with it from on high. Albert Einstein himself said...
huh?
True. They see Christians as more of a threat to their existence than radical jihadi Islam. They even see the more secular Israeli society as a threat. As a result they are very insular. They have even gotten exemption from Israel's universal service law. (everyone spends 2 years in the Israeli Defense Force)
The gospel offends those who reject Jesus.
If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...
Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)
And there are three varieties...
Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)
It may, but it is also easier to catch flies with honey rather than vinegar.
There seems to be a type of Christian that ALWAYS goes full bore, darn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. They go to Israel wanting to witness to Jews, and when they are persecuted for doing so, they utube it, and try to put on the robe of a martyr.
I learned, a long time ago, that in order to really be welcomed into a closed community like Haredi Jews, it takes time, patience, and the ability to let things go, so that once in a while, you can put in a good word.
Most evangelical Christians that I know, and have met in the past just want a quick decision for Christ, with no follow up, no real love, just another notch on their Bible. PLEASE! If I, as a Catholic went into the Salvation Army and tried to get one of their members to join the Catholic Church, I am sure that I would get the same reaction as the "Christian" trying to get into the closed society shown in the uTube clips.
The question you raise in my mind is why do you separate yourself as a Catholic and not a Christian. The very delineation to me is odd, that is if both are the same.
Is this attitude necessary?
The ultra-Orthodox Jews are more likely to live below the poverty line than other Jewish sects In Israel.Is this attitude necessary?
Rocky, this makes no sense. You are trying to equate spiritual matters with the Special Theory of Relativity. It doesn't work like that.
By the way, do you really know what E=MC2 means? E (in joules) = mc 2, equation in German-born physicist Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity that shows that the increased relativistic mass (m in Kilograms) of a body comes from the energy of motion of the body—that is, its kinetic energy (E)—divided by the speed of light squared.
There is no way that you can convert that to a spiritual formula.
The question you raise in my mind is why do you separate yourself as a Catholic and not a Christian. The very delineation to me is odd, that is if both are the same.
This is just the point I was getting at in my previous post.It may, but it is also easier to catch flies with honey rather than vinegar.
There seems to be a type of Christian that ALWAYS goes full bore, darn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. They go to Israel wanting to witness to Jews, and when they are persecuted for doing so, they utube it, and try to put on the robe of a martyr.
I learned, a long time ago, that in order to really be welcomed into a closed community like Haredi Jews, it takes time, patience, and the ability to let things go, so that once in a while, you can put in a good word.
Most evangelical Christians that I know, and have met in the past just want a quick decision for Christ, with no follow up, no real love, just another notch on their Bible. PLEASE! If I, as a Catholic went into the Salvation Army and tried to get one of their members to join the Catholic Church, I am sure that I would get the same reaction as the "Christian" trying to get into the closed society shown in the uTube clips.
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