Why are Christian Tourists to Israel Harassed?

[stephen583]

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In 2015-2016 the Israeli government began promoting Christian tourism as a national industry. Since then, organized tours have had the full support of the Israeli government. Tour buses and Christian patrons visiting "holy sites" have been afforded extra security and protection by police and the IDF.

In fact, over site of visitor operations at the "Wailing Wall" has been removed from "traditional" Jewish religious groups which has been replaced by a secular historic commission. Christians visiting the wall are no longer required to remain ten feet back from the wall, removing their shoes, or covering their heads as before.

This is a far cry from earlier times when Christian tourists could face arrest by the Israeli police for even being "present" at the "Wailing Wall" site, which was considered "desecration" and inciting public disorder.

So please, don't tell me the Israeli government is not directly involved in promoting Christian tourism as a paying industry.

 

[seashale76]

These Ultra Orthodox even harass other Jews. They harass everybody. It takes no provocation whatsoever other than simply existing in their vicinity.

A Jewish friend of mine and an entire group from her shul (which included her rabbi) were harassed by similar types while in Israel. Even Israeli Jews are harassed by these clowns. Most Israelis don't do this sort of thing.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

Of course they do.. I've read the Koran and spoken personally to Muslim religious leaders. Unlike the Judaism, they actually believe Jesus Christ was a prophet and he's going to return at the Time of the End.

How can you say Muslims don't worship the same God as Jews and Christians ???

You say you have read the Qur'an yet you are unable to see they worship a different god?

Sure they believe Jesus to be a prophet. But we as Christians believe he is our savior, that is is fully God in the flesh and he came he fully God in the flesh and died and was resurrected. The core belief of ISLAM is that Jesus was not the son of God. Thus denying Jesus completely, therefore making it an antichrist religion. How can you say they worship the same God, they don't.

2 John 1:7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 4:3King James Version (KJV)
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Also in the Qur'an, when "lsa" not Jesus comes back he will state that he was only a man a prophet and that he is not the son of god....and he will tell people there is one god allah and he has no sons....the whole thing is basically a description of the antichrist.

 

[stephen583]

"Israel can either be Jewish, or a Democracy".
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry 12/28/16.

In his final seventy minute Middle East policy address on Wednesday, Secretary of State John Kerry clearly delineates the difference between a "Jewish" State and a "Democratic" one.

 

[stephen583]

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Sure they believe Jesus to be a prophet. But we as Christians believe he is our savior, that is is fully God in the flesh

You are correct, neither Islam nor Judaism recognize the Holy Trinity. Many Christians do not either. If Jesus Christ was God, why did Jesus himself say, "I can do nothing without God" (John 5:30). So your scriptural quotes condemning those who do not recognize Jesus Christ "came in the flesh" (as a flesh and blood man), has nothing to do with the doctrine of the Holy Trinity (which states Jesus was himself God). That's a totally different argument altogether.

Arab people came from Abraham and worship the same God as Abraham. The Dome of the Rock is a Muslim holy site precisely because (according to Islamic tradition), this is where Abraham offered his son as a sacrifice to God.

The rock where this biblical event is supposed to have taken place (according to Islamic tradition) is located in a sub chamber directly beneath the (Dome of the Rock) Al Asqa Mosque in Jerusalem.

Abram's first son was born to his Egyptian maidservant Hagar and named Ishmael, (Genesis 16:1-11). If you have any doubt this was done by the same God Abram worshipped, just read verse 16:13. It's all there in black and white.

 

[stephen583]

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Demonizing Muslims and their beliefs will not bring Peace, or Security to either Israel, or Christianity.

It will in fact bring exactly the opposite.

 

[stephen583]

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Israel must make a choice between continuing down the road toward becoming a Zionist Jewish State, or becoming a Democracy that respects and protects all Abrahamic religions equally.

Of course as Christians, we know this is not merely a "political" choice, but a "spiritual" one that will impact on Israel's very survival at the Time of the End, which is precisely where we are now.

John Kerry, nor I (or any Christian who oppose Zionism) are "Anti-Semitic". We are pleading with Israel to repent and live.

 

[SolomonVII]

The best thing that can be said about John Kerry and his ilk, is to make sure that the door doesn't hit 'em in the backside on their way out.
When it comes to American foreign policy for the last eight years, Benghazi was as good as it got.
Glad that Americans have repented of that mistake.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

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You are correct, neither Islam nor Judaism recognize the Holy Trinity. Many Christians do not either. If Jesus Christ was God, why did Jesus himself say, "I can do nothing without God" (John 5:30). So your scriptural quotes condemning those who do not recognize Jesus Christ "came in the flesh" (as a flesh and blood man), has nothing to do with the doctrine of the Holy Trinity (which states Jesus was himself God). That's a totally different argument altogether.

Arab people came from Abraham and worship the same God as Abraham. The Dome of the Rock is a Muslim holy site precisely because (according to Islamic tradition), this is where Abraham offered his son as a sacrifice to God.

The rock where this biblical event is supposed to have taken place (according to Islamic tradition) is located in a sub chamber directly beneath the (Dome of the Rock) Al Asqa Mosque in Jerusalem.

Abram's first son was born to his Egyptian maidservant Hagar and named Ishmael, (Genesis 16:1-11). If you have any doubt this was done by the same God Abram worshipped, just read verse 16:13. It's all there in black and white.

The dome of the rock is where Mohammed is said to have ascended to heaven.

 

[SolomonVII]

"Israel can either be Jewish, or a Democracy".
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry 12/28/16.

In his final seventy minute Middle East policy address on Wednesday, Secretary of State John Kerry clearly delineates the difference between a "Jewish" State and a "Democratic" one.

Did he even spend a minute on delineating the difference between an "Islamic" state and a "Democratic" one?

Since America has spent the last 15 years setting up Islamic states in Iraq and Afghanistan, that might be more pertinent to the self-rigtheous pontificating of Kerry and the American left.

 

[ToBeLoved]

In 2015-2016 the Israeli government began promoting Christian tourism as a national industry. Since then, organized tours have had the full support of the Israeli government. Tour buses and Christian patrons visiting "holy sites" have been afforded extra security and protection by police and the IDF.

In fact, over site of visitor operations at the "Wailing Wall" has been removed from "traditional" Jewish religious groups which has been replaced by a secular historic commission. Christians visiting the wall are no longer required to remain ten feet back from the wall, removing their shoes, or covering their heads as before.

This is a far cry from earlier times when Christian tourists could face arrest by the Israeli police for even being "present" at the "Wailing Wall" site, which was considered "desecration" and inciting public disorder.

So please, don't tell me the Israeli government is not directly involved in promoting Christian tourism as a paying industry.

Supply and demand.