Why an eternal hell?

[dollarsbill]

It is? So someone who holds your head underwater and drowns you is the same as someone who holds your head under till you are almost dead, then pulls you out, then dunks you again, then pulls you out, then dunks you again, then pulls you out, etc. for three weeks?

That would be kind of irrelevant. Those who don't get the message now won't get it then.

Revelation 22:11 (NASB)
11 "Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy;

 

[dollarsbill]

Your point?

What are you trying to say?

Romans 9:15-16 (NASB)
15 For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." 16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.

 

[Blessedj01]

Romans 9:15-16 (NASB)
15 For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." 16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.

Please just get to the point - I don't understand the context you're trying to fit this scripture into.

 

[dollarsbill]

Please just get to the point - I don't understand the context you're trying to fit this scripture into.

It's quite self explanatory.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 (NASB)
13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

Like, many are called but few are CHOSEN.

 

[Blessedj01]

It's quite self explanatory.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 (NASB)
13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

Like, many are called but few are CHOSEN.

Self-explanatory with reference to what? And what's the actual POINT!?

 

[dollarsbill]

Self-explanatory with reference to what? And what's the actual POINT!?

God does whatever He chooses. He created all who would be lost forever knowing beforehand.

 

[Blessedj01]

God does whatever He chooses. He created all who would be lost forever knowing beforehand.

That's different from creating them to be lost though.

 

[dollarsbill]

That's different from creating them to be lost though.

You can tell God what He can and cannot do???????

 

[Blessedj01]

Come back and talk to me when you're being reasonable. I don't appreciate the set-ups and the mind games.

 

[dies-l]

You can tell God what He can and cannot do???????

Let's be honest here. No one is talking about God CAN or CANNOT do. We are talking about what God has said he DOES do and what is consistent with what God tells us about Himself. You disagree with others of us about what God says, and I can respect that. But, the way you argue your position is through solid exegesis of Scripture, not through strawmen and mind games.

 

[dollarsbill]

Come back and talk to me when you're being reasonable. I don't appreciate the set-ups and the mind games.

Then accept God as He is, SOVEREIGN.

 

[dies-l]

Then accept God as He is, SOVEREIGN.

Once again with the manipulative dishonest responses. We do accept God as He is. We just disagree with you about what that means. I believe that an objective reading of Scripture points to God who is far more loving, kind, and compassionate that you give Him credit for.

 

[Blessedj01]

Then accept God as He is, SOVEREIGN.

This isn't my definition of "reasonable."

 

[dollarsbill]

Let's be honest here. No one is talking about God CAN or CANNOT do. We are talking about what God has said he DOES do and what is consistent with what God tells us about Himself.

We are indeed talking about what God can do. Unless you know someone who can tell God what He can and cannot do???? Please tell us. If you can't tell God what He can do then tell us who can???? But I can answer that simple question. NOBODY can tell God what to do. Pretty simple, huh?

 

[Blessedj01]

We are indeed talking about what God can do. Unless you know someone who can tell God what He can and cannot do???? Please tell us. If you can't tell God what He can do then tell us who can???? But I can answer that simple question. NOBODY can tell God what to do. Pretty simple, huh?

Nobody is telling God what to do.

 

[dollarsbill]

Once again with the manipulative dishonest responses.

Dishonest would be saying that someone can tell God what He can do. You?

 

[dollarsbill]

This isn't my definition of "reasonable."

Irrelevant. He does whatever He chooses.

 

[Blessedj01]

Dishonest would be saying that someone can tell God what He can do. You?

You're being hostile and inflammatory. Do you realize that? These aren't very adult lines of reasoning.

 

[Blessedj01]

Irrelevant. He does whatever He chooses.

I see that you're having a conversation with yourself. Welcome to -that- list.

 

[dollarsbill]

Nobody is telling God what to do.

That is my point. Nobody can.