Why Adventist need not be ashamed, and wear their Adventist icon in the forum!

[sentipente]

Unless they were drunk while driving to the meeting...

Still two different issues.

 

[djconklin]

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Originally Posted by djconklin
I'd still like to argue against the idea that while one cannot drink and drive, one can drink (both parties were as they said "high as a Georgia pine") and make a binding contract!

Why would you want to do that? It is not mental acuity that is at issue in the operation of an automobile but reaction time and control. A contract requires a meeting of the minds.

And since the mind is impaired when under the influence of alcohol ...

 

[djconklin]

Originally Posted by sentipente
Why would you want to do that? It is not mental acuity that is at issue in the operation of an automobile but reaction time and control. A contract requires a meeting of the minds.

Well its hard to have a 'meeting of the minds' if they are drunk as skunks and stinking up the joint as they slide under the tables......

Well put!

 

[sentipente]

And since the mind is impaired when under the influence of alcohol ...

Are you speaking as a lawyer or as a layperson?

 

[djconklin]

Originally Posted by djconklin
And since the mind is impaired when under the influence of alcohol ...

Are you speaking as a lawyer or as a layperson?

No relevance. Medical doctors and scientists have made the observation.

 

[.chrys.]

It is how the symbol is being used; we're not using it to make a profit off of it, nor do I suspect that most of those who use it do so to decieve others as to their true beliefs.

I wholeheartedly agree that it is likely that most of those who do use it are not doing so to deceive others as to their true beliefs. However, the icon is a symbol of an organization of beliefs. Use of the icon is a privilege for those who stand by those beliefs and are willing to represent themselves as agents of such an organization.

When such a privileged person does not maintain those standards, he essentially violates his "contract" which allowed him to wear it.

 

[sentipente]

No relevance. Medical doctors and scientists have made the observation.

The opinons of medical doctors and scientists are not binding before the law. They must pass the threshold.

 

[sentipente]

Here the only parties who could potentially be violating terms of use related to the logo as an icon would be CF.

 

[StormyOne]

But now in the new Adventist forum, there will be no problems as the moderaters will be on you like Mequiers Wax on a shiny corvette.......

There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
-- Ayn Rand.

 

[bellanegra1]

Here the only parties who could potentially be violating terms of use related to the logo as an icon would be CF.

Not that I can follow what drunken driving has to do with wearing an icon..........

The bottom line MUST be that IF you so choose to ascribe to ANY denomination...........

You are consenting to be scrutinized by said alignment......

Soooooooooo............

I wonder, for instance, why would there be a need to have a sub-forum within a forum of "like-minded" believers?

I wonder if one or both of the sda forums are ill informed?

Seems that to be "governed" under an "icon" in a forum and then willingly divide it said forum is very much an oxymoron....

Why the division?

What DOES the icon really mean?

What difference does it make?

HOW does the icon affect the soul?

What part does it REALLY play in one's identification.........?

 

[sentipente]

What part does it REALLY play in one's identification.........?

It only plays the part that CF wants it to play. This is a agreement between CF and its members. CF does not require official denominational validation of anyone's claims to be authorized to use the icon.

 

[PeacefulSDA]

Some people need to define themselves by a label. That is not a problem in and of itself. Where it gets divisive is when they need to use that label and all that it means to them as a ruler by which to judge others who desire to wear that same label. That, in my opinion, is simply a manifestation of a deep bigotry that sullies the true meaning of the symbol.

 

[StormyOne]

Some people need to define themselves by a label. That is not a problem in and of itself. Where it gets divisive is when they need to use that label and all that it means to them as a ruler by which to judge others who desire to wear that same label. That, in my opinion, is simply a manifestation of a deep bigotry that sullies the true meaning of the symbol.

you would be correct.... and there are many who engage in the behavior you have described, as well as have that attitude...

 

[PeacefulSDA]

you would be correct.... and there are many who engage in the behavior you have described, as well as have that attitude...

So I've noticed...

As I was reading here this morning, Tonex and The Peculiar People were singing "Work on Me" on Yahoo Launchcast. What particularly caught my ear was the phrase "Lord Work On My Heart So I Can Love Everybody". Could the Lord be the answer to cleansing bigotry from the heart?

Perhaps a shift in our focus would help. "Lord Work On My Life, So I'll Be Pleasing To Your Sight"

 

[reddogs]

I wholeheartedly agree that it is likely that most of those who do use it are not doing so to deceive others as to their true beliefs. However, the icon is a symbol of an organization of beliefs. Use of the icon is a privilege for those who stand by those beliefs and are willing to represent themselves as agents of such an organization.

When such a privileged person does not maintain those standards, he essentially violates his "contract" which allowed him to wear it.

I dont like the way the Yankees charge so much to go to the game, or pick the line up, pick up broken down players, how they pay them, etc.... But if I go to the game with a 'Yankees' cap on do I violate this symbol of the organization of NY Yankees tradition/beliefs if I wear it to a Yankees game, of course not......

 

[reddogs]

Well lets say that I dont like the way the Yankees stadium looks, or how much they charge so much to go to the game, or the way they pick the line up, or pick up old broken down players, or how they pay them, etc.... But if I wear 'Yankees' cap to go to the game or wear a 'Yankees' cap on when I get together with other fans to watch baseball, do I violate this symbol of the organization of NY Yankees tradition/beliefs if I wear it but dont like all or a few of way things they do, of course not......

 

[.chrys.]

Point well taken. Even so, the Yankees likely do not have a policy regarding the wearing of their team logo. There is too much commercialism tied up in MLB for them to establish such a standard. I'm fairly certain that wearing the team logo while on the field does carry certain obligations.

The Seventh-day Adventist organization does have such a policy, however. Anyone who chooses to wear one in the "field" might do well to adhere to their standards. Is it out of line to assume anyone wearing a religious logo is a "team member"?

Anyone in need of a new uniform? Try: Adventist Witness Wear

 

[reddogs]

Point well taken. Even so, the Yankees likely do not have a policy regarding the wearing of their team logo. There is too much commercialism tied up in MLB for them to establish such a standard. I'm fairly certain that wearing the team logo while on the field does carry certain obligations.

The Seventh-day Adventist organization does have such a policy, however. Anyone who chooses to wear one in the "field" might do well to adhere to their standards. Is it out of line to assume anyone wearing a religious logo is a "team member"?

Anyone in need of a new uniform? Try: Adventist Witness Wear

So if I wear a Adventist logo while I sin, the Seventh-day Adventist organization will hunt me down like a hawk on a bunny rabbit and tear off the logo along with parts of my body............

You and I know that no such thing will ever happen.......wear the "Yankees" cap at the game and wear your "Adventist" icon at CF, and we can all fellowship with a renewed sense of community....

 

[.chrys.]

Now, of course they're not going to hunt anyone down wearing the logo if they sin or are being hypocritical. Agreed.

But please, if you're going to do something really awful--don't get caught doing it while wearing Adventist garb. People do take notice.

 

[reddogs]

Now, of course they're not going to hunt anyone down wearing the logo if they sin or are being hypocritical. Agreed.

But please, if you're going to do something really awful--don't get caught doing it while wearing Adventist garb. People do take notice.

So when GOOGLE STREET VIEW® comes by and you are wearing a Adventist logo on your T-Shirt, try not to be doing something you can't explain to grandma........