Who's Your Historical Hero?

[cartridge]

Why should I believe anything you say? We all know what Trotsky was....

And whats that? Correct? Well he certainly was far better than athat tyrant Stalin.

You Marxists Leninists are a the bain of the socialist movment, fascists in hiding.

Your leaders are tyrants, your icons are murderers and your ideology is failed.

 

[Mother Vashti]

Adam Michnik.

 

[theSaved#1]

Jesus Christ, he gave his live for our sins.

 

[Christopher Fox]

William Blake - A great artist and poet. A truly original religious thinker who was more happy to rely on his own feelings about the way the world works than to be constrained by the shackles of convention. His legacy to the world is (in my opinion) the greatest body of words and images created by any Englishman.

(and unlike many of the heroes posted above, he didn't have to kill people to win his fame.)

One of his greatest poems is my favourite hymn:-

AND did those feet in ancient time ​

Walk upon England's mountains green? ​

And was the holy Lamb of God ​

On England's pleasant pastures seen?​

And did the Countenance Divine ​

Shine forth upon our clouded hills? ​

And was Jerusalem builded here ​

Among these dark Satanic mills? ​

Bring me my bow of burning gold: ​

Bring me my arrows of desire: ​

Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold! ​

Bring me my chariot of fire. ​

I will not cease from mental fight, ​

Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand ​

Till we have built Jerusalem ​

In England's green and pleasant land.​

Chris​

 

[Russebby]

HERO is a strong word. I think my mother was a hero for fighting cancer. I think Jesus was a hero.

May I modify the question somewhat and put an answer to, "Who is your favorite historical figure of all time?"

To that question, I have three:

1--SOCRATES. Were he alive today, he would be indistinguishable from the general homeless. Always wearing a dirty toga and not caring what he looked like, he often ranted in the park and engaged in conversation with passers-by. Was arrested for sedition and corrupting the youth of Athens, when all he really did was tell anyone who would listen to always question authority. Without shame he accepted the death penalty.

2--THEODORA. The empress of Constaninople and wife of Justinian I, Theodora was born into poverty and prostitution to become the most powerful woman of the medieval world. A devout Christian, she was seen as the backbone Justinian never had. It was her strength that kept Justinian in power--it also led to the massacre of 30,000 men, women, and children in the Hippodrome in 532 AD.

3--GENGHIS KHAN. As a teenager, Temunjin was illiterate and orphaned, in the shackles of a rival chieftain and on the verge of death. From these auspicious beginnings, the young Temunjin rose to become the uniter of the Mongol peoples, the general who created the largest land empire in world history, and without a doubt forged his people into the most skilled cavalry of all time.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

HERO is a strong word. I think my mother was a hero for fighting cancer. I think Jesus was a hero.

May I modify the question somewhat and put an answer to, "Who is your favorite historical figure of all time?"

To that question, I have three:

1--SOCRATES. Were he alive today, he would be indistinguishable from the general homeless. Always wearing a dirty toga and not caring what he looked like, he often ranted in the park and engaged in conversation with passers-by. Was arrested for sedition and corrupting the youth of Athens, when all he really did was tell anyone who would listen to always question authority. Without shame he accepted the death penalty.

2--THEODORA. The empress of Constaninople and wife of Justinian I, Theodora was born into poverty and prostitution to become the most powerful woman of the medieval world. A devout Christian, she was seen as the backbone Justinian never had. It was her strength that kept Justinian in power--it also led to the massacre of 30,000 men, women, and children in the Hippodrome in 532 AD.

3--GENGHIS KHAN. As a teenager, Temunjin was illiterate and orphaned, in the shackles of a rival chieftain and on the verge of death. From these auspicious beginnings, the young Temunjin rose to become the uniter of the Mongol peoples, the general who created the largest land empire in world history, and without a doubt forged his people into the most skilled cavalry of all time.

That reminded me people use the word hero too freely. Nothing personal, but in my mind cancer will never even compare to war and since heros must be elites in my mind, and hero's must commit thier acts of heroism of thier free will, people who have no choice whether or not to develop cancer and must fight it can not meet the requirments of a hero. In fact, it takes more courage in my mind to accept death and I will never understand religious peoples fear of death.

 

[Brimshack]

Heroes?

One more thing that I do NOT believe in.

 

[Christopher Fox]

HERO is a strong word. I think my mother was a hero for fighting cancer.

I watched my mother fight cancer too. I think hero is the right word

Chris.

PS: Not too sure about old Genghis though!

 

[Paladin Dave]

I admire Ghengis Khan, Rommel, Bismarck, Richtoffen, and a lot of other men who were previously mentioned. Bismarck is up there near the top for me.

I also admired, and am surprised no one had previously mentioned: General Douglas McArthur, Justinian, Guan Yu, and Richard the Lionhearted. Thats all I could think of right off the top of my head. If anyone alredy mentioned those guys, please forgive me. BTW, I'm new, and would like to be able to use my own avatars, so I was wondering if any of you could please give me some praises? I'd really appreciate it.

 

[Brimshack]

I am continually amazed at the consistency with which histories greatest mass murderer's show up as heroes and men to be admired. But perhaps that is what being a heor is, being a criminal of such great proportions that people suspend their normal values and simply admire you. I agree that courage in the face of cancer doesn't measure up to this standard. ...thank the IPU.

 

[Koba The Dread]

I am continually amazed at the consistency with which histories greatest mass murderer's show up as heroes and men to be admired. But perhaps that is what being a heor is, being a criminal of such great proportions that people suspend their normal values and simply admire you. I agree that courage in the face of cancer doesn't measure up to this standard. ...thank the IPU.

Obviously I am presuming you mean your 'history' but which heroes are you referring to?

 

[Brimshack]

I'm not interested n a polemic debate over communism Koba. Find someone else to play with.

 

[Latter-Day Saint]

The greatest hero of all time (my opinion, of course) is Micheal the Archangel. Whoo!
Then again, the wrestler "Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Micheals is MY hero...

 

[Russebby]

I also admired, and am surprised no one had previously mentioned: General Douglas McArthur, Justinian, Guan Yu, and Richard the Lionhearted.

I mentioned Justinian's wife, Theodora. What more do you want from me?

 

[Paladin Dave]

Sorry, just trying to be specific .

 

[jewishprincess613]

Anne Frank is my role model and always has been.

I also very much admire Oskar Schindlar--- the wonderful man who was actually a Nazi and ended up saving over a thousand innocent lives in a concentration camp he had built specifically for that purpose in mind. He is the one I know most about, but I admire ALL people who risked their lives to help the innocents of the Holocaust.

 

[wb3]

Chenggis Khan was the man! He took a rag tag bunch of nomads and made them into one of the world's most feared armies.

 

[Aduro Amnis]

Fidel Castro, not because he was a Communist, but because he had a vision of freedom and he obtained it.

 

[Lifesaver]

I currently have two people I admire greatly, firstly Ernesto "Che" Guevara, a Guerrilla leader born in Argentina and fought for the poor working class people of Latin America. Most notably he was a leader of Castro's forces in the overthrow of the brutal Batista regime. He later was murdered after he failed to instigate a revolution in Bolivia. It is thought that it was the CIA who ordered his murder. Che was a remarkable man of great kindness to those he represented and ruthless to those who would exploit and attack the defenceless. I can think of no person of greater impact on the workers of the world with the possible exception of my second choice.

Err, cartridge, Che was a murderous terrorist responsible in great part for the sorrowful state of Cuba today (where people flee the island swimming!).
He was responsible for countless executions at the paredón, and helped many other revolutionaries factions and taught them guerrilla tactics.
The socialism he fought for killed more people than nazism and forces people into a life of misery, lack of freedom and godlessness.

A personal hero of mine was Pope Leo XIII, one of the first to speak openly against socialism, decades before the dreadful revolutions had taken place. He was also concerned for the material well-being of workers, though, and instead of creating and instigating class hatred, exhorted classes to love one and another, so that rich and poor may be able to live together in the true charitable spirit of Christianity.

 

[Lifesaver]

Fidel Castro, not because he was a Communist, but because he had a vision of freedom and he obtained it.

The tyrant Fidel Castro has been in power in Cuba for 45 years, and many have perished under his cruelty and opression.
He indeed obtained freedom for himself, as he lives very comfortably and is greeted as a hero in many parts of the world.
Too bad his freedom is not extended to the people he rules over.