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Yes, the fiction parts?that is a short read, but is missing a lot of important history especially if claiming it’s “non-fiction.”
no, there is a “but.” when you leave out important stuff, you remove context. to say that link is accurate to history is like saying Rings of Power is faithful to Tolkien.Yes, the fiction parts?
There is no "but". I said it's a short read, that doesn't make it not non-fiction.
All of Church history including St Clement 1 the chair is in Rome. I do not do quotes anymore.and even if He did, nowhere does He mention Rome.
It does n.o.t matter historically or otherwise...you realize this post is very historically inaccurate
What part of the OP's video is fiction?I rarely read fiction (such as the OP's video), so I thought I'd share a short read from the non-fiction section.
that’s just an assertion.All of Church history including St Clement 1 the chair is in Rome. I do not do quotes anymore.
But throughout...
if it’s all about St Peter the way you say, why doesn’t Antioch make the same claim? St Peter was in Antioch first, and was there longer than when he was in Rome.It does n.o.t matter historically or otherwise...
The main point is this - SIMON you are MY Rock and upon this Rock [Simon aka now Peter from Petros] I will BUILD My Church.
He did not give this to anyone else.
None of them.
Nobody.
No where
No how.
SO despite what seems like a lack of confidence in both Jesus and the ability of the Holy Spirit to keep the Church from heresy built upon the Chair of Peter...
IT is Peter and not the other chairs.
Through out history all the way back it is in Rome where Peter was crucified.
And to quote any man at any time regarding 'honor and deference' otherwise will not, does not change what the Lord unapologetically stated before all of them.
Simon, YOU are Rock.
Even in the first council, Rome is deferred to.
There is NO argument except man's argument.
I find it appalling that you continue to put words in Christ's mouth which He never spoke. Lord have mercy!The main point is this - SIMON you are MY Rock and upon this Rock [Simon aka now Peter from Petros] I will BUILD My Church.
Ugh, it is accurate. If you want to get the whole picture, there are volumes of books that cover the Schism. To be upset that a short article doesn't cover everything is a bit naive.no, there is a “but.” when you leave out important stuff, you remove context. to say that link is accurate to history is like saying Rings of Power is faithful to Tolkien.
it’s not accurate at all. and while covering everything would be foolish for anyone to demand, that link misses a lot of important stuff. it’s pretty a unserious thing to try to use to someone who has read even a little history.Ugh, it is accurate. If you want to get the whole picture, there are volumes of books that cover the Schism. To be upset that a short article doesn't cover everything is a bit naive.
Those are His words, His intent and if it were not so, then the holy early fathers would not have said so.I find it appalling that you continue to put words in Christ's mouth which He never spoke. Lord have mercy!
Michael quarreled with Pope Leo IX over church practices in which the Roman Church differed from Constantinople, particularly the use of unleavened bread in the Eucharist.[2] Dissenting opinions were also exchanged over other theological and cultural issues, ranging from the issue of papal supremacy in the Church to the filioque clause and other disagreements between the patriarchates.Ugh, it is accurate. If you want to get the whole picture, there are volumes of books that cover the Schism. To be upset that a short article doesn't cover everything is a bit naive.
this isn’t correct. while it’s true that some said St Peter is the rock, more said it was his confession of faith.Those are His words, His intent and if it were not so, then the holy early fathers would not have said so.
Maybe it is not I who does not understand.... and perhaps not wishing to understand. I assure you this is easy to understand.
None of the historical Saints ever said otherwise. Until after the schism.
As if a 23 minute video covers it all. You're funnyit’s not accurate at all. and while covering everything would be foolish for anyone to demand, that link misses a lot of important stuff. it’s pretty a unserious thing to try to use to someone who has read even a little history.
I never said a 23 minute video did, but thanks for the compliment.As if a 23 minute video covers it all. You're funny
No they aren't. Everyone can see what you have added.Those are His words,
Your presumption. Your hubris.His intent
None of the early Church Fathers have said what you claim. None of them add to the Scriptures as you have done.and if it were not so, then the holy early fathers would not have said so.
and maybe it isMaybe it is not I who does not understand....
That would explain your obstinance.and perhaps not wishing to understand.
You are allowed to debate us here, but you are expected to do so in a civil and respectful manner. If you are just here to troll then your posts are likely to be reported.As if a 23 minute video covers it all. You're funny
I offered an alternative view. So quick to dismiss a quick read and accept a short video as gospel. If that is reportable, be my guest.You are allowed to debate us here, but you are expected to do so in a civil and respectful manner. If you are just here to troll then your posts are likely to be reported.
You dismissed the short video as fiction. I've asked you to state which parts are fiction and why, to which you have not responded. Since you are not willing to support your claims your posts fit the definition of "trolling".I offered an alternative view. So quick to dismiss a quick read and accept a short video as gospel. If that is reportable, be my guest.
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