Which none of these tradtions can be found anywhere written from the Apostles. They are just heresay and mens opinions with a big name attached to them.
It does not have to be MamaZ because the Apostle Paul told the Early Christians to follow the Holy Traditions pass down by the Apostles either by word or written [2 Thes 2:15]. For you and other Protestants, it is opposite: Only follow what was written. But you and others can not give any solid Scriptures to justify your belief of Solo-Scriptural. Hence, it is a mad-made doctrines!
The Holy Spirit was sent down on the Apostles on Pentecost, and they were given the charisma to serve and lead the Church. This charisma they passed on to their successors, the Bishops, who in turn passed it on to their own successors, even to this present day [2 Tim 2:2]. The Holy Apostles and there Successors passed along the Holy Traditions [not written] to the Early Christians.
The fact that you have a Bible in your hands is because Christ' Church came together and decided which books belong where, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit in the 4th Century. These Same Church Fathers some try to put down were the one who canonized the Bible. Hello! The Church had the ultimate authority in this matter MamaZ, not the Holy Scriptures. You have yet to answer why this is so. This totally destroys your arguments that we should not follow the Church, and that the Holy Scriptures is ultimate authority. Furthermore, Scriptures declare that the Church [not the Bible] is the "pillar of truth" (2 Tim 3:15). Before any NT Scripture was written, it was the Church alone which passed the Apostolic Faith.
Scriptures never say to follow Scriptures alone, that was a myth promoted in the 1500s.
The bible is the truth and nothing but the truth. Scripture tells us this..
Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Psa 19:8 The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the LORD are true; they are righteous altogether.
Psa 19:10 They are more desirable than gold, yes, than much fine gold; Sweeter also than honey and the drippings of the honeycomb.
Psalm 119, "Thy Word is very pure." "Thy law is truth." "All Thy commandments are truth." "The sum of Thy Word is truth." "Every one of Thy righteous ordinances endures forever for all Thy commandments are righteous."
Psalm 111:7, "All his precepts are sure."
Romans 7:12, "God's Word is holy, righteous and good." And you have in
Deuteronomy 4:2, "Do not add to Scripture." You have in
Revelation 22:18 and
19, "Do not add to Scripture, do not take away from Scripture." It is in total complete and infallible.
Nice Scriptures, but none teach Solo-Scriptural. No one argue that Scriptures are divinely inspired, and no one argue that Scriptures contains the utmost truth. But as Saint Paul said in 2 Thes 2:15, we Christians need to follow the Holy Traditions that was written down [Scriptures] and those which the Holy Apostles passed down through there Holy Successors, and the Early Christians, and not only what was written!
This is the point Mamaz, because what you and others do is read a Scripture that say "Thy Word is very pure" (Ps 119) and
automatically assume the Scripture means "only" and thus you come to your conclusion that only Scriptures [what was written] is true and pure. This is where we divide Mamaz. I do not add the one "only" or "alone" to any Scripture text because I know what Saint Paul taught in 2 Thes 2:15. Scriptures is not total complete as you say. Some Holy Traditions were passed down "orally" and was not written down.
Deut 4:2 -
This Scripture does not teach Solo-Scriptural, because If your interpretation of the Revelation verses were correct, then they would have to be applied here as well. In which case, the Old Testament after Deuteronomy and the entire New Testament would have to be discarded as false. The passages in the Old Testament that warn against such things (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32) are actually warning against adding to the books of Moses, the Pentateuch. God did not preclude Christians from accepting the Old Testament books after Deuteronomy or the New Testament. Where is the word "Scripture" in Deut 4:2? I have the KJV, NKJV, NIV, ASV, NASV, NLT, and others and none have the word "Scripture" in them. Did you add that word to prove your point MamaZ?
Rev 22:18; It is easy to misrepresent Scriptures MamaZ. Revelation 22:18 is talking about the Book of Revelation not the whole Bible. I do not see the word "Scripture" anyway in these verses!
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book." (Rev 22:18-19)
So the question that need to be ask is "Which Translation are you using MamaZ?" I am using the KJV. So are you adding words to the Bible Mamaz, because you add the word "Scripture" into these texts which none of my translations have?
Hence, Revelation 22:18 was talking about ONLY the Book of Revelation, and hence does not agree with Solo-Scriptural! Saint John said "this book" three times. Saint John did not have a complied Bible with a black page in the back where he was writing on.
Thus, I have yet to see a Protestant give a Solid- Scripture proving Solo-Scriptural. I am still waiting.......
Blessings,
Ramon
The author and the finisher of our Faith is not the church. It is Christ. We are not to put our eyes upon any man for our faith. For our Faith does not come from Man but from Christ the Head..How does faith come? It cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. not the word of Man. Not tradtions but the word of God. This is why we see in scripture that we are not to live by bread alone but by Every word that proceeds out of the Mouth of God and that scripture is indeed breathed by God. Therefore the scriptures are what we are to live by. For it is the enterance of Gods word that brings light. Men are just men. Prone to error and delusions and being deceived. This is why the word has been written so that we have a sure testimony as to what is from God and what is not from God. His word is pure. Where mens word are just that mens word. The ECF never uttered scripture only their interpretation of the scripture already written. This is why we have a more sure promise.. Gods written word. For Gods word is sufficient to fully equip the man or woman of God.
