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Who really cares what the ECF's had to say?

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Philothei

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Are you implying I am a "troll" :D
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No not you! Your avatar was a guard against trolls...that's all...:cool:
 
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Since this thread is an "all topic" thread including the Queen


I heard that she is the head of the Church? is that right?
.....Is Elizabeth I an ECM, an early Christian Mother?This is to those of the Brittish descent...

Montalban would be miffed you don't include Aussies. He may answer that question. After all, the ECFs are more important to him than to me. So should ECMs.


 
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Dear Beamishboy,

'ECM':
Come, come, I know Her Majesty is getting on in years, but she's not that old;)

At worst she'd have to be 'Later Church Mother'. You'd better reassure Simon and Rick that although you pray for her in your Liturgy, you aren't praying to her, and that although people bow to her, they are not worshipping her:D

I can't, however, think of any other secular monarch who is head of a Church; is there one?

Peace,

Anglian
 
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I like this song but is it Doors who first sang this?
I heard that from somewhere though this song comes to mine. This was my favorite song of all times back when I was a youngster. You would hear it playing everywhere anyone had a radio :)

Luke 12:49 Fire I came to be casting upon the Land and any I am willing if already it was kindled.

Revelation 8:5 And has taken, the messenger, the franckincensor, and he crams-full it out of the Fire of the Altar. And he casts it into the Land and became thunders and sounds and lightnings and quaking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iSXrZYhJt4&feature=related
 
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What the heck LOL....

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Simon says:
OP has requested that the thread be closed.
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And, for once, Simon and I agree:D

Peace,

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Anyone deny this?
"in many cases they had next to NO access to bounce their ideas off of other great theological minds..."

Or this?
Essentially the scriptures they used and the ones we use have remained unchanged, less some poor translations

Why would it be plausible?
It does not seem plausible to hang ones salvation on an early 3rds or 4th century interpretation of the same scripture we have NOW.

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These claims they were all answered during the course of this thread ... I see no point of repeating yourself....

But if you insist then....here is a repeat from Anglian:

Yes, and so would the ECFs, who always insisted on fidelity to the tradition handed on by the Apostles; they particularly distrusted claims to private inspiration - because it was from such claims that men like Marcion and Valentinius constructed their own heretical versions of Christianity.

Again, we see the wisdom of the Church in insisting on resting on more than one pillar.

peace,
Anglian





 
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These claims they were all answered during the course of this thread ... I see no point of repeating yourself....

But if you insist then....here is a repeat from Anglian:

Show me ONE example of an apostle venerating a holy image...
I can show you 2nd century fathers who TORE them down...But not viseversa...
 
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Dear Simon,

On the assumption the OP has changed his mind, St, John Damascene's argument is that the Incarnate Word is God in human form - an icon, and that in worshipping the Risen Lord, the Apostles do precisely what you and the iconoclasts deny they do - worship He who is, literally, the image of God.

That was where the Church came out, having considered not just your arguments, but many more. You may disagree with the Council, but the Church has accepted its verdict - after considering and rejecting your arguments.

Peace,

Anglian

p.s. are we closed?
 
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Show me ONE example of an apostle venerating a holy image...
I can show you 2nd century fathers who TORE them down...But not viseversa...
How about this "Image" that was removed from the Sanctuary by the Roman army as Prophecied by JESUS. :)

John 11:48 "If ever we may be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him, and shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of Us and the Place and the Nation."

Reve 2:5 Be thou remembering then! , whence thou have fallen and reform! and the first works do! If yet no, I-am-coming to thee swiftly and shall be moving the Lambstand of thee out of the Place of her if ever no thou should be reforming.

Reve 6:6 And I hear as a sound in midst of the four living ones, saying: "choinex of grain of Denarius and three choinex of barleys of Denarius, and the olive-oil/elaion and the wine no you should be injuring".

http://www.davieapostolicchurch.com/studies/destuct/

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover


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