Who Justifieth the Ungodly

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Therefore God Justifies unbelievers !

I know this will draw the opposition of those who oppose the Gospel of Gods Grace, but its true and Rom 4:5 confirms it, that God Justifieth the Ungodly while being so , and so He Justifieth them while unbelievers, for Believers are never called ungodly ! This means that sinners Christ died for are made righteous prior to their believing or personal faith in Christ !
Total disregard for the context.
Romans 4:1 ¶ What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Was Abraham ungodly? No, he was a sinner like every other man born after Adam.
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
 
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Total disregard for the context.
Romans 4:1 ¶ What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Was Abraham ungodly? No, he was a sinner like every other man born after Adam.
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
God justifies the ungodly Rom 4:5
 
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In context it does not teach that we are saved before we are saved.
Ro 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 4:5 teaches that God justified people while they are being ungodly, on the same note, People Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death, even while they were enemies in their minds Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 
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Rom 4:5 teaches that God justified people while they are being ungodly, on the same note, People Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death, even while they were enemies in their minds Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Only those who submit themselves to the righteousness of Christ are reconciled in Christ.
Ro 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
 
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Only those who submit themselves to the righteousness of Christ are reconciled in Christ.

False, Those for whom Christ died, are reconciled to God while being enemies Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 
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False, Those for whom Christ died, are reconciled to God while being enemies Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Persist in error if you so desire but only by true repentance and belief through the scriptures are we saved.
 
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Persist in error if you so desire but only by true repentance and belief through the scriptures are we saved.
According to Rom 5:10 what was their condition when reconciled to God ? And how were they reconciled to God ?
 
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The Free Gift of Justification!

Justification is given to some, Gods Elect as a Free Gift. Rom 5:16
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

All the Elect whom Christ died for, Received as a Free Gift Justification from all there offences! 25
 
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The Free Gift of Justification! cont

A nugget of truth found in this scripture Rom 5:16 that the religion of man will deny is this Rom 5:16

And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

The free gift here through Jesus Christ, as opposed to the condemnation/judgment by the one who sinned, the free gift is UNTO Justification ! In other words what Christ did for the elect He represented resulted in their Justification from all their offences. The word unto is the greek prep eis and means:

a primary preposition; to or into (indicating the point reached or entered), of place, time, or (figuratively) purpose (result, etc.)

Just as Adams one act resulted in Judgment/condemnation of many he represented, so likewise Christ's obedience resulted in Justification of those He represented. Not a possible Justification, a made available Justification, a offered Justification, but it resulted in their Justification, and of course Christ's resurrection evidences the same Rom 4:25

Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification
 
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He that Justifieth the Ungodly !

Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Does this mean that God Justifies men even when they themselves are ungodly ? That word ungodly means:

destitute of reverential awe towards God, condemning God, impious,

irreverent, i.e. (by extension) impious or wicked:—ungodly (man).

And yes it means what it says, God Justified some men [His Elect] while they were the Ungodly, or being ungodly, even enemies Rom 5:10.

Now I know this is a truth that the natural man receives not, its foolishness to him !

Now Paul is showing a contrast here in this portion of scripture, in how a person is Justified before God, not based on his work [something he did], but was brought to believe by God given Faith, that God Justified them while they were Ungodly, Enemies.

This is True because those Christ died for, died for their sins, offences, He was raised again for their Justification Rom 4:25

Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

Christ resurrection is proof positive that those for whom He died, Gods Law and Justice has been completely satisfied for them, hence God raised Him from the dead as an evidence of their Justification.

See Christ's resurrection is proof that those He died for are not in their sins 1 Cor 15:17

And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

But thats what God given Faith testifies of and is evidence of, that Christ's resurrection is an evidence that those He died for have been Justified[are not in their sins], declared not guilty and righteous, based solely upon the blood shed of Christ.

So that means that those who would believe in the future, that before believing, they were Justified while Ungodly. See an Elect Person isn't born a believer, even though they are born sinners and ungodly enemies, by nature. Yet because of the death of Christ for their sins, they were Justified, and Christ's resurrection was evidence, so when they do finally come to believe, they believe on Him that had Justified the Ungodly. And thats the Righteousness their God given Faith looks to Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Thats is, what His God given Faith testifies to, which is the Justification/Righteousness they had while being ungodly !

See that word Justification in Rom 4:25 means:

  1. the act of God declaring men free from guilt and acceptable to him
  2. abjuring to be righteous, justification

    God given Faith is given to make known, reveal this righteousness to the mind and heart of the Justified sinner, for whom Christ was delivered for their sins !25
 
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Many in mans religion evade the Truth of scripture that those Christ died for, His Elect, His Sheep, His Body the Church, they evade the fact that they are by the blood of Christ alone, shed for them, Justified Rom 5:9, forgiven/redeemed Eph 1:7 even while in a unconverted, dead in trespasses and sins state. Even then they are reconciled to God while being enemies Rom 5:10. They were never under Gods Wrath, nor His Condemnation, as other men and women are, no, not even while they are children of wrath by nature as others Eph 2:2-3. The only thing is this, their Justification before God, Forgiveness of sins, and Peace they have with God through Jesus Christ Blood, its not manifested/revealed to them by Faith until they are born of the Spirit and then Called effectually by the Gospel !
 
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To be Justified !

What does it denote to be Justified? One of the things it does signify is to be forgiven of sin, not guilty of guilt, to be acquitted!

For instance, one of the consequences of Christ's death for the elect is to be purged from their sins Heb 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


The word purged here is the greek word katharismos and means:

cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.

a cleansing from the guilt of sins

Christ sacrificial death alone effected for those He died a cleansing from the guilt of their sins.

Thats Justification! It also corresponds to Rev 1:5

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

The connotation here is a releasing, loosing, a dischagre from their sins, from the guilt and penalty of them, and so equates to Justification from sin.

In Rom 4:25

Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Justification here denotes :

acquittal, emphasizing Christ's full payment of the debt for sin which delivers from all guilt and condemnation for their sins !

Now none of this has to do with ones faith, believing, repentance, but solely accomplished by the death of Christ. Those Christ died for are Justified before God solely by His death for them!
 
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Christ death Justified unto life all for whom He died !

Mans religion denies this glorious truth, by teaching that there are sinners Christ died for that shall be lost !

However the Gospel Truth is clear Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Who are the all men here ? Simple, all men who were Justified to life, as a free gift, by the righteousness of one. That righteousness speaks to the active and passive obedience of Christ in the place of and stead of all for whom He represented, His Church!
 
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Justification before God through Jesus Christ consists in these two vital truths #1 The Imputation of Christ Righteousness Rom 4:6

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

And #2 The Non Imputation of sin 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 25
 
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The free gift of Justification !

Rom 5:16

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

The free gift here isnt a offering of Justification, no more than condemnation was an offering. The free gift here is unto Justification, not only from the sin of adam, but all subsequent sins, actual sins of the elect of God. This free gift of justification isnt for all men without exception since many are under condemnation and wrath for their sins. 26
 
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God Justifies the ungodly !

Rom 4:5

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Now even though these are justified while being in a state of ungodliness, that's not why they are Justified, they are justified because they before Gods law and justice are accounted righteous, on the sole basis of the satisfaction Christ provided for them by His Blood shed.
 
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"but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly "

This truth carnal reason cant comprehend and wont accept, which is the elect here are being justified before God even while being in a ungodly state or as unbelievers at enmity with God. See they wouldnt be ungodly if they were believers already. Note further that the object of their Faith is He that Justifies the ungodly.
 
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I believe scripture teaches us that the elect of God were justified before God before faith because of the surety-ship doings and righteousness of Jesus Christ their Head, and if this be true, it would be also true that they were justified before God before they actually had a physical being, even before the world began because of His surety-ship engagement to come into the world and die for the elect.
 
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"but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly "

This truth carnal reason cant comprehend and wont accept, which is the elect here are being justified before God even while being in a ungodly state or as unbelievers at enmity with God. See they wouldnt be ungodly if they were believers already. Note further that the object of their Faith is He that Justifies the ungodly.
So if God Justifies the ungodly, He justifies unbelievers! 26
 
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