Who Justifieth the Ungodly

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I wonder why you did not take that opportunity, to discuss those verses that speak about the very same matter you keep teaching about.

I think they must encourage the deception, so that is why you didn't want to encourage it further, by ignoring them.

 

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Justified by Faith!

Rom 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

When are those Christ died for Justified by Faith ?

It's when by the Power of the Holy Spirit and the Gospel of Peace, one is given persuasion of their Justification before God due to the Surety Obedience of Christ on their behalf Rom 5:19. Hence the spiritual fruit of Faith Gal 5:22 giveth the Justified conscience evidence of their Justification Heb 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

 

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It's when by the Power of the Holy Spirit and the Gospel of Peace, one is given persuasion of their Justification before God due to the Surety Obedience of Christ on their behalf Rom 5:19. Hence the spiritual fruit of Faith Gal 5:22 giveth the Justified conscience evidence of their Justification

Looking closer at what happened to justify us.

We remember Abraham was justified ( by believing in Gods promise and oath) That gave glory to God.

That same justification comes to us, if we believe the same promise fulfilled. ( giving glory to God)





Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.



Justification comes by the Spirit of God, and by the name given into all the world to hear of, Jesus Christ.

If we seek to be justified by Christ, we cant be found sinners, or we are transgressors ( destroyers)


Jesus was justified in the Spirit, the same as we are ( by the Spirit of faith)




2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.




Again n Abraham, how was he justified ?

By hearing God, and we are justified in the same way, that is why these testimonies are created for us to believe and to be justified by the works of God.




James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.[/QUOTE]

 

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Looking closer at what happened to justify us.

We remember Abraham was justified ( by believing in Gods promise and oath) That gave glory to God.

That same justification comes to us, if we believe the same promise fulfilled. ( giving glory to God)





Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.



Justification comes by the Spirit of God, and by the name given into all the world to hear of, Jesus Christ.

If we seek to be justified by Christ, we cant be found sinners, or we are transgressors ( destroyers)


Jesus was justified in the Spirit, the same as we are ( by the Spirit of faith)




2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.




Again n Abraham, how was he justified ?

By hearing God, and we are justified in the same way, that is why these testimonies are created for us to believe and to be justified by the works of God.




James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

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You dont seem to understand Justification by Faith, and you dont listen to me.

 

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Justified by Faith! 2

Justification by Faith is not about being Justified by the act of one's faith but having been Justified by the object of one's faith, the Lord Jesus Christ.20

 

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Faith was first seen in how God swore an oath to Abraham, ( faith is to believe in the promises of God, and for them to be faithfully fulfilled)

 

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His Death alone Justifies the Ungodly, some of them !

This is where false religion goes dreadfully wrong and shows all manner of disdain and dishonor to the accomplishment of the death of Christ alone for sinners. They dont believe as to the Testimony of scripture, that those Christ died for, by His Death alone for them, apart from any obedience, faith, repentance of their own, but even as they are ungodly rebel sinners like other men and women by nature, that by His death alone they are made righteous, and totally Justified before God without any one sin laid to their charge. Now scriptures that validate this Truth are as follows, all for whom Christ died, by His death alone have had all their sins before God purged away, Heb 1:3

who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

You see that ? By Himself alone, those He died for, purged their sins. That word purged is the greek word katharismós and means:

cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.

Its a cleansing/purification which results from God removing undesirable admixtures (eliminating impurities). Its

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ,. Hence not one charge of sin can be charged to any sinner Christ died for, as so intimates Rom 8:33-34

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

You see that ? The non charge of sin is based upon the fact that Christ died, and so dying He purged their sins, and cleansed them from all guilt of their sins, which freely Justifies them while yet they themselves are yet remaining ungodly by nature ! This is a Precious Truth false religion which glorifies man cannot receive.

 

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His Death alone Justifies the Ungodly, some of them !

His death has to be declared, for God to be just and then the justifier


Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

 

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His death has to be declared, for God to be just and then the justifier


Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

His death alone Justified the ungodly, the elect !

 

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His Death alone Justifies the Ungodly, some of them !2

Another scripture that evidences that those whom Christ died for are by His death alone Justified, made righteous before God, even while they are ungodly sinners in themselves is Heb 10:14

14 For by one offering[His Death] he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Christ death alone perfected forever them He died for. Thats there total Justification before God, their perfection and righteousness before God, not based upon their faith, obedience, repentance, water baptism, but solely based upon His Offering, which is His Death.

Also His death alone is what sanctifies them Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus[His Death] Christ once for all.

Heb 13:12

12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

His own blood was purposed to sanctify His People, His Church, as in Eph 5:25-26

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Now this Sanctifying and Perfecting of those Christ died for is a fact before God even while those He died for are in a ungodly, unbelieving, and rebellious state by nature, because its solely premised on the Offering of Christ ! 20

 

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To be cleansed from the guilt of sins by expiating death of Christ as per Heb 1:3, means Justification before God. That also means to be declared righteous before God, even though we be in unbelief and rebellion against God.

 

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Having ones sins purged constitutes their salvation, God being the God of their salvation Ps 79:9
Help us, O God of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.

 

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All for whom Christ died have been Justified by that fact alone, because it is by Grace through the Redemption that is in Christ Jesus , that is in His Blood Rom 3:24
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Eph 1:7
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Redemption and Justification come through His Blood and not by Faith in His Blood.

And we know all men without exception are not Justified, so Christ death wasn't for all without exception!

 

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Rom 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

To be Justified by Faith is when one has been given spiritual assurance by God the Spirit, that they have been freely Justified, or Made Righteus by the Lord Jesus Christ, by His obedience Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.21

 

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As is Salvation, Justification is promised only to the Seed of Israel !


Isa 45:17, 25

But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation:
ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified,
and shall glory.

So in Rom 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: These Justified ones by Faith are the Seed of Israel/Abraham as mentioned in Rom 4:16

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Again, this is the Seed of Israel Isa 45:25

In the Lord[Jesus Christ] shall all the seed of Israel be justified,
and shall glory

 

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Justified before God simply by the fact some were chosen in Christ before the foundation, Eph 1:4 which makes the Gods Elect, hence based soley upon that they were Justified Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.


The word for elect here, the greek word eklektos which means:

1. picked out, chosen
   1. chosen by God,
      1. to obtain salvation through Christ
         
         Its an adjective of eklegomai, the verb Paul uses in Eph 1:4 chosen, as God chose them for Himself in Christ before the foundation, and that fact alone Justified them before Him !

 

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Those Christ died for are Justified [Before God] while they are being ungodly Rom 4:5

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

John Gill writes:

but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly: or that ungodly one: particular reference is had to Abraham, who in his state of unregeneracy was an ungodly person; as all God's elect are in a state of nature, and are such when God justifies them, being without a righteousness of their own; wherefore he imputes the righteousness of another, even that of his own Son, unto them: and though he justifies the ungodly, he does not justify their ungodliness, but them from it; nor will he, nor does he leave them to live and die in it; now to him that worketh not, that is perfect righteousness; or has no opportunity of working at all; or what he does, he does not do, that he might be justified by it; but exercises faith on God as justifying persons, who, like himself, are sinners, ungodly and destitute of a righteousness:22

 

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Justified by Christ's Redeeming Death alone !

Many in mans religion deny this most precious Truth, that if Christ died for one, that fact in and of itself Justified you. This is not Justification by Faith, even though that is true also, but this is Justification solely by the death of Christ, which redeems, and the Grace of God. Here's a scripture that declares it Rom 3:24

Being justified freely by his grace [How] through[on the account of] the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The redemption that is in His Blood Eph 1:7; Col 1:14 Eph 1:7

In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

The word redemption in both Rom 3:24 and Eph 1:7 is the greek word apolutrósis:

release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.

The ramsom payment that effected the release was not mans repentance or faith, but the Life Blood of Christ ! For instance Matt 20:28

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

That done, the many He gave His Life for were released. Now released from what ? The debt of sin,

purchasing them from the debt of sin ,deliverance effected through the death of Christ from the retributive wrath of a holy God and the merited penalty of sin, deliverance from the penalty of transgressions, effected through their expiation

Thats why its also correlated with forgiveness of sins !

Forgiveness of sins is automatic with Christ shedding His Blood alone Matt 26:28

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins And thats Justification ! So in essence to teach that one isn't Justified before God, based solely upon the death of Christ, that teaching is an attack on the blood merits of the Blood of Christ before an Holy God, its in fact against Christ ! 22

 

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How were believers redeemed ?

According to Gal 3:13 how were these believers redeemed ?

Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law[How], being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Now does this say that believers were redeemed from the curse of the law by believing in Jesus Christ ? How about by repenting ? Absolutely not! It says plainly, by Him being made a curse for them, which denotes His death, His death on the Cross. And through His death, redemption is Justification Rom 3:24

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

So now. Are men and women born in sin, for whom Christ died, and redeemed, are they born into the world already redeemed and Justified by the blood of Christ before God, before they believe ? Yes or No ?

 

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Exactly who is it that God Justifies ?

Gods word answers that, for God does things according to His word, even His word of promise. Isa 45:25

In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

Which is the all the seed of Abraham Rom 4:16

Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,



God promised to Justify abrahams seed Gal 3:8

And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.


Rom 3:30

Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

So it is God that Justifies ! Rom 8:33

Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies.


But now notice who are the objects of Gods Justification here ? His Chosen ! His Elect, or the Seed of Abraham, or of Israel. This looks back to the promise of Isa 45:25

In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

Gods Justification is limited to His own Israel in Christ !22