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Featured Who is your favorite Pope

Discussion in 'Christian History' started by David Cabrera, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. Davidnic

    Davidnic Well-Known Member Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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  2. Blade

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    Not Catholic..and there have been a few.. and to do all that.. wow what a job.. I have read about some that REALLY moved me.. great question.,
     
  3. Root of Jesse

    Root of Jesse Admiral of the Fleet/First Sea Lord Supporter CF Ambassadors

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    But the first pope.
     
  4. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    The Pope is a bishop, is he not? So no, Peter is an Apostle, not a bishop/pope.
     
  5. Lost4words

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    :doh:
     
  6. prodromos

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    I understand why Catholics disagree, but the whole theology of the papacy being built on Peter has been retroactively applied. Anyway, this is not the thread to discuss this.
     
  7. Lost4words

    Lost4words Like a puppy, i need guidance. Supporter

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    Exactly, so there was no need for you to bring it up in thread no:66 above :doh:
     
  8. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I brought it up in post #28 in response to a question. It was Jesse who wanted to argue with one of those "just so" statements.
     
  9. Root of Jesse

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    Apostles were the first bishops. Peter was the bishop of Antioch, then the Bishop of Rome. James was the bishop of Jerusalem. And so on. But Popes don't need to be bishops to be pope, though that is generally the way they are chosen. In fact, you don't have to be a priest to be named a bishop, either, though it is generally done that way.
    The Pope is the head of the Universal Christian Church (whether or not you recognize that fact). Jesus named Peter the head of the Church, and so he was.
     
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  10. Root of Jesse

    Root of Jesse Admiral of the Fleet/First Sea Lord Supporter CF Ambassadors

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    It has not been retroactively applied, other than what we call him. We didn't call Peter 'pope', but there is a clear succession from Peter to Francis today. What title he held is of no consequence. I know it is true that the function of pope has changed. That happened when Constantine moved his capital to Constantinople an left government of Rome to the only knowledgeable left. The Church filled the void, and the Pope became governor of Rome and surrounds, until WWII or somewhat before. So the job of the pope changed, sadly, but what his responsibilities are to the flock has never changed-feed my sheep, tend my lambs, feed my sheep.
     
  11. Neostarwcc

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    Gregory the great. He wrote many things that are interesting.
     
  12. Ayenew

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    Thank you for your comprehensive response. I agree with you in all except that I don't think HH has any problem of properly understanding Deification (Theosis). He simply got it hard to accept (I know it may be improper to say so, but that's what I feel and what one can see from his writings). And...so do I. I even doubt whether Theosis is really in the OO theology. I hope we will discuss more on it in a proper thread.
     
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