Doug said:
Before then, earlier in his career, he does not. His religion will outwardly at least be Judaism. He won't be saying anything negative about God in the early stages of the 7 years.
SEE NO WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY HE WILL BE INTO JUDAISM -
this is what DOUG made up so it would fit his story...
Yes, it says that in Daniel 11, when he has entered the Antichrist-beast stage for that last 42 months because in that set of verses, it says that he claims to be greater than every god.BUT THE WORD DOES SAY HE WILL FURTHER A GOD HIS FATHERS DID NOT KNOW
You are not comprehending the progression of events in end times bible prophecy corresponding to the 4 stages of the Antichrist's career. The Antichrist is not referred to as the beast except in that last 42 month segment.THAT'S SATAN DOUG... Also how is it that a man who makes the agreement and NEVER claims to be the messiah - you turn into the messiah..... Sorry doug the AC promotes the devil and NOWHERE does the word say different
Only doug? Not hardly.no where does it say the Jews believe he's the messiah.
Only doug does
I have heard contradicting information about Semiramus
what do you think is valid about this myth?
sorry to get off topic
Actually, you would go all the way back to Cain and Abel, I would think:But the RCC and the Vatican only go so far back in time, and cannot be the ones responsible for the deaths of the prophets and them slain upon the earth like it says in the last verse of Revelation 18. Which as far back as a person can go - post flood era, is to the tower of babel and Nimrod in unifying all the people against God.
Nimrod and Semiramis are tied together. Nimrod as he was maturing, began turning into a giborim - an indication that he somehow had the nephillim gene in him.
Actually, you would go all the way back to Cain and Abel, I would think:
Matthew 23:
"29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!
33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[c]"
I don't see where Jesus is drawing a parallel to Cain and Abel and them murdering Him as Messiah ... He says specifically that all the blood of the righteous will come upon them, as a "generation", including Abel's. One may could argue that Jesus represents all the blood of the righteous, or shares the same blood with them ... whether past or present.Matthew 23... weren't the Pharisees already secretly planning to kill Jesus at that point? And Jesus knew it. Matthew 12:14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him. 15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;
So that is the backdrop to when it gets to Matthew 23 and Jesus lashed into them. He knew they were planning murder just like Cain did to Abel, and the same sort of wickedness done to the prophets who were sent to them to change their ways.
A prophet of God is someone appointed by God to speak on his behalf in delivering a message or teaching to the people. Which that message had been sent over and over, generation to generation for them to repent. Of which John the Baptist was the latest. And that generation of pharisees and I guess them who sided with the pharisees would forever bear the burden as having been the generation that killed the messiah.
I don't think it is talking about Jerusalem as the woman in Revelation 17 and 18, however. I think one has to go to the source of all false religions back to the tower of babel and Nimrod, which I lean to the woman being Semiramis. But not further back because of the flood, and Noah and his sons - who I don't think there was any false religions being practiced by them.
I would agree with you that Mystery Babylon is fallen is fallen itself would go back to the first murder, Cain killing Abel, because that is the principality of Satan and his angels - which will be cast down to earth somewhere just a little passed the middlepoint of the 7 years.
The "man of sin, son of perdition" is not technically the "antichrist" (I wish this concept didn't exist because it causes a lot of confusion).
The phrase "man of sin, son of perdition" is actually referring to 2 entities. In general, "Death and Hades". Man of sin = Death ("the antichrist"). Son of perdition = Hades/ Hell (the "false prophet").
For example in Seal 4, we find a covenant with "death and hades". Also, like this passage:
Death is the 1st entity; "Grave" = hell/ hades is the 2nd entity. Death and Hades. These are the entities referred to in Revelation. The 7 headed beast, the beast from the sea = Death = the "man of sin".
Because the term "beast" can also refer to a king, what people generally call "the antichrist" can also function as the "stand-in" for the 7 headed beast. But there is a problem here: people want to say that this "representative" entity for the 7 headed entity is the "antichrist", but that isn't accurate. The 3rd beast from the sea in Dan 7 is the Leopard entity that defeats his other 3 rivals (there are 4 heads to the Leopard that is given dominion). This "new Antiochus" is the "antichrist". The 4th beast is Satan, who completes the line of 7 heads (1 for the lion w/ eagle wings, 1 for the bear, 4 for the leopard (new Antiochus ruling the lesser 3), 1 for Satan = 1+1+4+1= 7 heads. It is the 4th beast, Satan, the 7th head that gives new Antiochus his throne and authority.
The 2nd entity, the Beast from the earth, the "false prophet", = Hades/ "the Grave"/ the "son of perdition". This entity is the 8th king/ 8th head.
Hi Jade777,
The following is excellent advice and IMHO worth repeating:
Look no further than the image that stares back at you in the mirror.
Someone said build a profile, the profile started in the first garden as it starts in us.
Who helped build the tabernacle of Moses, and who provided timber for the building of Solomon's temple, and what beam is removed from the eye that seemingly the removing of helps build the house, or what was used to draw a son out of Egypt, both the first and the last time ... consider Nebuchadnezzar and the seven times that passed over him.
You cannot flee what you can not see.
Where this image is ... is as important as where you see it from.
Hey Daq,
Interesting point of view, thanks for bringing that to my attention, nevertheless, I agree with your initial view on this one. The falling away in 2 Thes 2 applies to Church, Apostasia (Greek) i.e they fall away from the truth not someone new coming into the faith. The context is directed to the church and warning against a specific individual ‘the man of sin, son of perdition’ not sinners in the plural carefully read vs8 “And then the lawless one...” and vs 9 repeats “The coming of the lawless one is the working of satan with all power, signs , and lying wonders.” In reference to “we are the son of perdition” has anyone of us come with great power, performings signs and lying wonders. Do you? You may like to consider these perdition scriptures for clarification: 7 But the angel said to me, "Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition Rev 17:7-8. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition Rev 17:11. Beast and perdition a connection to the man of sin, son of perdition.
Gog/Magog are the muslim countries and their ally Russia.
They do not come to Israel's aid. They attempt to destroy Israel. The Antichrist will appear to be coming to Israel's aid, at the time Gog/Magog attacks Israel. But before he arrives God will have already destroyed Gog/Magog Himself.
Yes, I remember the night Bel-dak was slain: I became third ruler of my dominion.
However, since the Antichrist will have intentioned to come to Israel aid, it will appear to the Jews that he is their long awaited messiah. They only believe he is for a short period of time, around 3 1/2 years.
The beast in Revelation 13 is the Antichrist in the last stage of his career.
There are four stages to the Antichrist's career, based on the code names used for him in the bible. He starts out as the little horn in Daniel 7 and ends up being the beast in Revelation 13.
It's all one person who goes through four stages. The four stages are:
1. the little horn - the Antichrist. (as he first emerges out of Europe)
Gog/Magog attacks
2. the prince who shall come - the Antichrist (comes to aid Israel, they embrace him as messiah)
3. the revealed man of sin, son of perdition - the Antichrist (reveals himself as the man of sin, Israel drops him as their messsiah)
4. the first beast in Revelation - the Antichrist (slain and come back to life, worshiped as God, persecutes everyone who doesn't go along. Leads the world to try and stop Jesus from returning. Cast into the lake of fire when Jesus returns)
The Antichrist is one end times individual who will go through those four stages; from emerging on the world scene as the little horn to being cast into the lake of fire as the beast when Jesus Returns.
I hope my explanation of the four stages of the Antichrist's career, I just made, helps. The Antichrist is one person, who progresses through those 4 stages.
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