White House Refuses to Address Arrests of Pro-Lifers

[disciple Clint]

Why the FBI? I would think the local police should be arresting them and bringing charges.

Acts of terrorism fall under Federal Law.

 

[disciple Clint]

There's no credible leads on the few incidences of vandalism of churches that have occurred, as is the case in many vandalisms.

The responsibility for investigating and developing leads falls under the FBI. So circular logic?

 

[FireDragon76]

The responsibility for investigating and developing leads falls under the FBI. So circular logic?

Vandalism is usually a local crime. It would be a serious mismanagement of resources for the FBI to look into every case of vandalism.

 

[disciple Clint]

Look, this might just be me. But if someone tells everyone that they are going to break a federal law and live stream themselves doing it then the feds don't have any excuse not to arrest the person concerned. I'm sure they have better things to do with their time but if it's a blatant attempt to actually get arrested then they have no choice but to arrest the person. You'd be up in arms if they weren't doing their job.

In cases where some random unknown dude damages a pro life facility and there is no clear evidence as to who did it then the same does not apply. If no-one was actually harmed or prevented from attending the facility then some graffiti or a broken window will be left to local cops. If he or she is found then due process will occur.

Now what am I missing here? Are you saying that some or all federal offices across the country are deliberately targeting some people and ignoring crimes by others? 'Cos if you are then thanks for that opinion. If you have any sort of evidence whatsoever then please share it.

Perhaps the fact that terrorism is a Federal crime and that the responsibility for developing evidence is the burden of the investigating agency, which in this case is the FBI, if the FBI is only capable of investigation cases where the evidence is provided to them maybe they should be replaced. There are people within the FBI that are coming forward with evidence about the selective enforcement of laws within that agency.
"Thirty former FBI agents, including a retired deputy assistant director, head of counterterrorism and five SWAT team members, have spoken out publicly in support of suspended FBI whistleblower Stephen Friend.

Their heartfelt messages, obtained exclusively by The Post, show a deep and widespread anguish about the politicization of the FBI.

“It’s time to stop the FBI from being the enforcer of a political party’s ideology,” says Ernie Tibaldi, a retired agent from San Francisco. “We need to re-establish the FBI as the apolitical and independent law enforcement entity that it always was.”
30 ex-FBI agents stand up to support whistleblower who exposed bias

 

[disciple Clint]

Vandalism is usually a local crime. It would be a serious mismanagement of resources for the FBI to look into every case of vandalism.

Terrorism such as firebombing a prolife office is a Federal crime, this has been covered by the MSM several times, it should be known.

 

[FireDragon76]

Terrorism such as firebombing a prolife office is a Federal crime, this has been covered by the MSM several times, it should be known.

How do you know the FBI doesn't actually look into such matters? Just because arrests haven't been made doesn't mean they don't take those sorts of incidents seriously. It's difficult to arrest people for what are essentially anonymous crimes with few or no leads.

 

[disciple Clint]

How do you know the FBI doesn't actually look into such matters? Just because arrests haven't been made doesn't mean they don't take those sorts of incidents seriously. It's difficult to arrest people for what are essentially anonymous crimes with few or no leads.

The FBI has made arrests for anonymous crimes for the entire life of the agency, they used to be quite good at investigating crimes and developing evidence.

 

[FireDragon76]

The FBI has made arrests for anonymous crimes for the entire life of the agency, they used to be quite good at investigating crimes and developing evidence.

There's plenty of cold cases with no leads. Would you rather the FBI try to track down serial killers, or some random angry person with a can of Krylon?

 

[disciple Clint]

There's plenty of cold cases with no leads. Would you rather the FBI try to track down serial killers, or some random angry person with a can of Krylon?

Regardless of what I might like the FBI has set domestic terrorism as their number one target, they need to take off the blinders.

 

[FireDragon76]

Regardless of what I might like the FBI has set domestic terrorism as their number one target, they need to take off the blinders.

I'm sure they've concluded there is no significant threat, which seems reasonable.

Again, Christians need to check their persecution complex. I see no evidence of systemic or organized persecution of Christians or Pro-Life people in general.

 

[disciple Clint]

I'm sure they've concluded there is no significant threat, which seems reasonable.

Again, Christians need to check their persecution complex. I see no evidence of systemic or organized persecution of Christians or Pro-Life people in general.

Not hard to see it is covered in the MSM.

 

[Fantine]

Apparently there is a federal law set up to prevent people from accessing clinics.

[Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act] (copied from OP.)

Vandalism of pro-life clinics is wrong. I agree. But vandalism isn't part of the freedom to access clinic entrances.

It is therefore a state or local crime that should be prosecuted by the city or state in which the crime occurs.

Similarly, if pro-lifers are vandalizing a clinic at night without preventing access that would be a crime to be handled by state or local police.

Simple. Biden isn't violating laws. He isn't enforcing what you want him to because the violators in that case are violating state or local laws.

 

[disciple Clint]

Apparently there is a federal law set up to prevent people from accessing clinics.

[Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act] (copied from OP.)

Vandalism of pro-life clinics is wrong. I agree. But vandalism isn't part of the freedom to access clinic entrances.

It is therefore a state or local crime that should be prosecuted by the city or state in which the crime occurs.

Similarly, if pro-lifers are vandalizing a clinic at night without preventing access that would be a crime to be handled by state or local police.

Simple. Biden isn't violating laws. He isn't enforcing what you want him to because the violators in that case are violating state or local laws.

OK for about the 5th time now, domestic terrorism is a federal crime, firebombing prolife offices is therefore a federal crime, this has been pointed out in the media time and time again.

 

[FireDragon76]

Not hard to see it is covered in the MSM.

I've seen no evidence of significant persecution of Christians in the MSM.

 

[Fantine]

OK for about the 5th time now, domestic terrorism is a federal crime, firebombing prolife offices is therefore a federal crime, this has been pointed out in the media time and time again.

Arson is not domestic terrorism unless it is part of a plot against government.
Arson is a state crime.

 

[disciple Clint]

Arson is not domestic terrorism unless it is part of a plot against government.
Arson is a state crime.

NO it does not have to be against the government.

 

[Fantine]

NO it does not have to be against the government.

According to the Patriot Act it is:

The Patriot Act defines domestic terrorism as an attempt to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."

 

[DaisyDay]

OK for about the 5th time now, domestic terrorism is a federal crime, firebombing prolife offices is therefore a federal crime, this has been pointed out in the media time and time again.

There is no way that the FBI is not investigating firebombing incidents. However it is against policy to announce what leads they may have or how it is going.

 

[FireDragon76]

According to the Patriot Act it is:

The Patriot Act defines domestic terrorism as an attempt to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."

That's related to the general definition of terrorism as accepted by actual experts on the issue. Terrorism is inherently political. It's not simply some angry or drunk guy with a can of Krylon or a box of matches.

Churches get vandalized all the time. It happens. It doesn't mean there's significant religious persecution or a concerted effort to engage in terrorism.

 

[FireDragon76]

There is no way that the FBI is not investigating firebombing incidents. However it is against policy to announce what leads they may have or how it is going.

The FBI investigates nearly everything, they just don't talk about it. It would be stupid from their point of view to do so, as it would involve potentially disclosing their sources and methods.