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Which one would you kill?

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So you asked a skewed hypothetical question, trying to get people to agree with you that "humans are more valuable than other animals" and now you're unhappy that some people still don't share your view on the matter?

Obviously, none of us would actually kill anything in Avatar's basement in Real Life (I hope *wink*).

Why is it so upsetting to you that some others don't believe humans are innately more valuable than chimpanzees?
It's sad that people don't value themselves, as humans, as greater than animals.
 
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It's sad that people don't value themselves or their lives as much as they should.
Why is that sad for you - that people don't value themselves or their lives as much as you feel they should?
 
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I don't understand..I value my life very much, though whether I value the life of another stranger as much is a different story.

Check into pandeism. You might change your mind. :)
 
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Why is that sad for you - that people don't value themselves or their lives as much as you feel they should?
Yes. If people think they are no better than animals in any way, it's sad for them. I'm sorry that they think so lowly of themselves.
 
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Yes. If people think they are no better than animals in any way, it's sad for them. I'm sorry that they think so lowly of themselves.
So you feel sad for people who don't value humans more than animals - because they don't agree with you that humans are more valuable than animals?

And you describe that sad feeling as being "tasteless"? :confused:
 
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So you feel sad for people who don't value humans more than animals - because they don't agree with you that humans are more valuable than animals?

And you describe that sad feeling as being "tasteless"? :confused:
Sad that they don't value themselves any higher than they do, tasteless to choose to kill a human over an animal (hypothetically).
 
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Sad that they don't value themselves any higher than they do, tasteless to choose to kill a human over an animal (hypothetically).
Sad for them, right? Though I still don't see why valuing animal lives as much as one values one's own life or the lives of other humans is necessarily a sad thing. But I do understand that you feel sad for such people.

So why is it "tasteless" to choose to kill the hypothetical retarded human over the hypothetical genius chimp?
 
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Why do we assume that we don't value ourselves.

The question isn't "Would you kill an animal or yourself?"

My decision isn't based on any arbitrary value placed on life - mine is based on my lack of desire to kill either the animal or the human. They equally deserve to survive, so I give them equal chances.

I value myself as much as you value yourself - I probably value animals quite a bit more than you do, though. I haven't "lowered" myself - I have "raised" them.

Perhaps I just have more respect for living creatures than you.
 
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You're not that self-absorbed if you don't even think you're better than an animal.

Oh I would definitely take my life over an animal but you asked whether I'd kill a retard or a chimp..big difference.

Lol. That's not what you were supposed to take away from it. ^_^

ROFL! Oh..oops..I've been known to mix things up like that. :p
 
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Sad for them, right? Though I still don't see why valuing animal lives as much as one values one's own life or the lives of other humans is necessarily a sad thing. But I do understand that you feel sad for such people.

So why is it "tasteless" to choose to kill the hypothetical retarded human over the hypothetical genius chimp?
No matter how much you value an animal life, a human life is always more valuable. Just because a human life is more valuable than an animal does not mean the animal is not valuable, nor does it decrease the value of the animal. It is just saying that the human life is worth more.

Because you are valuing an animal over a human.
 
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Oh I would definitely take my life over an animal but you asked whether I'd kill a retard or a chimp..big difference.



ROFL! Oh..oops..I've been known to mix things up like that. :p
What makes your life more valuable than any other human life? Besides just your bias based on the fact that you are yourself, I mean.
 
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