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Let’s hear your explanation for this man you denigrate that has everything liberals could think of thrown at him and is still standing and by some measures stronger than ever?
Those aren't random matters thought up by 'liberals'. They are the facts of the matter. That the guy concerned is, depite those matters and many, many others is only a couple of points behind in the polls is a sad reflection of the state of US politics.

The rest of the world has been watching this slow motion train wreck for too long. But to continue the railroad analogy, there is at last some light at the end of this dark and dismal tunnel.
 
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Joe was pushed out by Pelosi and the party.
Tough luck for you guys that he's not the candidate. Complain all you want. You, and Trump, might have to come to terms with it at some point. I sincerely hope that he doesn't.
 
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...he was convinced to leave. The decision was still his to make.

Again, if Trump is convinced to leave the race tomorrow, would the GOP hold primaries in all 50 states?
I am sure you can only hope.?
 
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I am sure you can only hope.?
And if the hope comes to fruition, do you hold those primaries to choose a substitute? Or do you go with the VP candidate?

Oh, please...take option 2.
 
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Let’s hear your explanation for this man you denigrate that has everything liberals could think of thrown at him and is still standing and by some measures stronger than ever?

I'm not denigrating Donald Trump. This is not the venue and I don't have enough time to do any denigrating justice.

I just listed a series of actions that he took around the 2020 election that I believe make him a threat to US democracy. There are plenty of other actions that I could have listed. For instance, pressuring a foreign ally to invent dirt on his political opponent. Or asking a hostile foreign government for dirt on another. Or support - both implicit and tacit - for rollbacks of elements of the Voting Rights Act. Or constant falsehoods about illegal immigrants voting. Or attempts at altering the 2020 Census to allow for better gerrymandering.

As for why Trump is still standing? Ego. I think he's a self-aggrandizing narcissist with a complex that won't allow him to recognize any information that doesn't align with his own positive self image. I also believe a very large part of his reason for seeking a second term is to avoid a long, all-expenses paid vacation into a very sturdily build Federal facility.

I also dispute the characterization that he's "stronger than ever".
 
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And if the hope comes to fruition, do you hold those primaries to choose a substitute? Or do you go with the VP candidate?

Oh, please...take option 2.
Many on the left have demonized Vance as well and so I am surprised you would even consider that possibility.
 
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I take it you won't answer the question. Your claims of Democrats "violating" democracy rings hollow.
Of course you think that I would expect nothing less. We could do a list on the ways liberals have trashed Democracy would you like to take them one by one?
 
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Tough luck for you guys that he's not the candidate. Complain all you want. You, and Trump, might have to come to terms with it at some point. I sincerely hope that he doesn't.
No one I know is afraid of an empty suit Harris , she is already getting cold feet about the one debate she has obligated herself to. She complained when Trump wanted to renegotiate debate rules now she wants new rules not in the debate agreement Joe and Trump made. She even wants to have notes , I guess to keep her lies straight. She is a joke. It will become apparent after the debate.
 
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Many on the left have demonized Vance as well and so I am surprised you would even consider that possibility.
If he could hit triple figures for electoral votes I'd be more than astonished.
 
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No one I know is afraid of an empty suit Harris , she is already getting cold feet about the one debate she has obligated herself to. She complained when Trump wanted to renegotiate debate rules now she wants new rules not in the debate agreement Joe and Trump made. She even wants to have notes , I guess to keep her lies straight. She is a joke. It will become apparent after the debate.
Let's hope that Trump is foolish enough to take her as lightly as you do.
 
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Of course you think that I would expect nothing less. We could do a list on the ways liberals have trashed Democracy would you like to take them one by one?

You can list all you like. And you still have not answered my question. 3rd try.
 
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If Trump dropped out of the race tomorrow, do you really believe the GOP would have primaries in all 50 states to determine the GOP nominee?
No . But the Democrats did have the option to open up the convention to other possibilities rather than anointing the VP who many democrats wanted off the ticket before Joe was forced out. It probably was Joe’s revenge to pass the campaign to Kamala. Now we are in the midst of at this point a very successful gaslighting campaign which will crash and burn. There you have your answer.
 
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No . But the Democrats did have the option to open up the convention to other possibilities rather than anointing the VP who many democrats wanted off the ticket before Joe was forced out. It probably was Joe’s revenge to pass the campaign to Kamala. Now we are in the midst of at this point a very successful gaslighting campaign which will crash and burn. There you have your answer.
Really? Tell me, who are these democrats who wanted Harris dropped from the ticket? Can you name one who publicly said this?

-- A2SG, never heard that one....
 
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Really? Tell me, who are these democrats who wanted Harris dropped from the ticket? Can you name one who publicly said this?

-- A2SG, never heard that one....
You should pay more attention to the MSM.
 
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