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In "Christian theology", it would seem, there is no functional difference between a brain and a meadow muffin.
Hi AV! Ha. I wonder how many thread tags there are with "AV Did It" and "AV Didn't Do it" for zombified threads.
I've learned about creationism from various perspectives and it's always been fascinating to me, but unattached to my personal and religious beliefs. I've studied it as dispassionately as I have Greek mythology and Hinduism, obsolete beliefs once fervently held by clergy such as geocentricism, and the historical religious-based opposition to suffragettism and the abolition of slavery.
We had an entire component on the creation myths of civilizations in an 8th grade world religion class. It was like Creationism 101 in a way. It just didn't limit itself to Christian creationism. I wrote a report on Rangi and Papa, the primal couple in Maori creationism mythology that explains their beliefs on the origins of the world, after a trip to New Zealand that year. To foreigners it seems like it's a fantastical story, and yet it was as sincerely believed as the Christian belief in Adam and Eve as historical people. One of the reasons why I accept evolution is its consistency around the world, in cultures where the politics, religions and ideologies are starkly different. It's cooperative. It's science.
I would think it would be easier for someone who understands evolution and accepts it with confidence to sit through a class on creationism because they'd be less likely to bring emotions into the room. I think there's a value in understanding creationism because of its historical (and to an extent current) impact on politics, religion, and culture.
Sure, why not???!
I love starting Mondays with marriage proposals!
PS. Thank you for the really sweet comment in the original post. It made me smile.
And that is one difference between religion science. Religion has stopped trying to make sense of the world, and religion thinks that is a good thing. All that is needed is to be subject to your masters, resign to misery, bow down unquestioningly before ignorance, and drop a dime into the collection plate as payment for promised pie in the sky in the sweet by-and-by. Excuse avoidable evils, because, after all, we weaklings, "born in sin" cannot do better than accept and grovel and bribe, so that the master may condescend to forgive.
I remember, perhaps imperfectly, C.S. Lewis' little book, The Great Divorce, where, at the last minute, the hero is rescued from hell, where people are all praying, listening to sermons, and singing hymns, forever.
You don't go to hell, you just stop there. Hell happens when you stop trying to make sense, and just accept.
I love starting Mondays with marriage proposals!
PS. Thank you for the really sweet comment in the original post. It made me smile.
Sure.
And that is one difference between religion science. Religion has stopped trying to make sense of the world, and religion thinks that is a good thing. All that is needed is to be subject to your masters, resign to misery, bow down unquestioningly before ignorance, and drop a dime into the collection plate as payment for promised pie in the sky in the sweet by-and-by. Excuse avoidable evils, because, after all, we weaklings, "born in sin" cannot do better than accept and grovel and bribe, so that the master may condescend to forgive.
I remember, perhaps imperfectly, C.S. Lewis' little book, The Great Divorce, where, at the last minute, the hero is rescued from hell, where people are all praying, listening to sermons, and singing hymns, forever.
You don't go to hell, you just stop there. Hell happens when you stop trying to make sense, and just accept.
Gracchus used the term "religion science" -- whatever that is.
I was going for lollipop and ended up at Thaumatin, but I'm glad you liked it
How's this place? Does it need different drapes?
--- Snipping picture of glorious beautiful Pangong Tso Lake in the Himalayas because it consumed too much of this page. Anyone interested can go back a page to see it.
Marriage Artemis? You are way to young!!!
I have all those joys as a believer, and additional ones as someone with gratitude for science. I also am missing out on the unnecessary conflict I see amongst young Christians who feel as if they are in a tug of war between science and religion. That in order to believe in one, they must reject the other, and so they feel torn and worn from the struggle. In the teen section and several other areas of this forum there have been heartfelt posts to that effect, and I've personally encountered it as well. Did you know this is one of the leading causes for Millennials to abandon their faith? It's not one or the other. 
Sorry! that should have been "religion and science". I will edit the post to correct it, although you will probably bring it up along with thalidomide and Pluto forever.
I don't think they need your permission.
Amen!I haven't missed out on any of that, AV!
I actually have a high amount of respect for science.
Well they most certainly didn't ask my permission to come out, and I'm sure they won't ask my permission to go back.
This is a blissfest for the eyes. Wow, it's stunning!!!! Perfect.
Haha. You got engaged at 16; I'm practically a slow poke in comparison! You can be the Maid of Honor.
