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Which is easier...?

Which is easier?

  • An evolutionist to sit through Instant Creation 101

  • An instant creationist to sit through Evolution 101

  • Neither


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AV1611VET

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So... do you think I deserve to go to hell, AV?
Is your conscience bothering you, Sarah?

If so, it could be the conviction of the Holy Ghost.

I went through it too.

Do the right thing and admit you are a sinner and ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and be your Saviour.

He will.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
 
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Is your conscience bothering you, Sarah?

If so, it could be the conviction of the Holy Ghost.

I went through it too.

Do the right thing and admit you are a sinner and ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and be your Saviour.

He will.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Me and Jesus have an understanding. I don't fire my guns after midnight and he keeps his dogs off the neighborhood streets.
 
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Is your conscience bothering you, Sarah?

If so, it could be the conviction of the Holy Ghost.

I went through it too.

Do the right thing and admit you are a sinner and ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and be your Saviour.

He will.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

No, I was just asking for your opinion. Which you decided not to give. If I died in my sleep tonight, do you think I deserve to go to hell?
 
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No, I was just asking for your opinion. Which you decided not to give. If I died in my sleep tonight, do you think I deserve to go to hell?
Sarah, if you die in your sleep tonight, just look around, and if you don't see AV1611VET, then you are not in hell.

:D
 
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Sarah, if you die in your sleep tonight, just look around, and if you don't see AV1611VET, then you are not in hell.

:D

I like AV and his semi-trolly challenges and tendency to be a thread necromancer (what would god think of your practice of dark magic, AV? For shame ^_^ ;) ).

I'm already in college for a science degree. Pretty sure my personal hell would be a worse version of that.
 
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I like AV and his semi-trolly challenges and tendency to be a thread necromancer (what would god think of your practice of dark magic, AV? For shame ^_^ ;) ).

I'm already in college for a science degree. Pretty sure my personal hell would be a worse version of that.

I hear ya. I'm in the second semester of my senior year and have contracted a serious case of senioritis. I have to finish this freaking ginormous tedious paper for my biological research class, and of course it's due the day after Coachella.
>.< I should try to claim that I'm now a Young Earth Creationist and I reject evolution and therefore it's against my religious beliefs to finish this paper. Gah.

Haha, but this made me think of Sheldon's personal hell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzHHZ5oXAr0
 
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Is your conscience bothering you, Sarah?

If so, it could be the conviction of the Holy Ghost.

I went through it too.

Do the right thing and admit you are a sinner and ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and be your Saviour.

He will.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

segue :doh:
 
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I voted 1. because most atheists will at least try to see both sides of any argument, while creationists can only remain creationists if they can keep themselves from seeing the other side.

Why else would creationists deny their children knowledge of evolution? if their religion is so true what do they have to fear?
How can creationists ever hope to argue against evolution if they don't even know what evolution is all about? have they never heard "know thine enemy"? if they don't know what they are fighting against how can they ever hope to defeat it?

I think that's called a "Catch 22" situation, if they know nothing about it they can't fight against it and if they know all about it they will know there's nothing to fight against.

How can anything that advocates ignorance or relies on ignorance to succeed be a good thing? that baffles me.
 
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I'd like to know what "Instant Creation 101" would even consist of. Someone reading Genesis 1 out loud and insisting it be interpreted the way he wants it to be?
QV please:
I'll make one up and we'll see where it goes.

Creationist Test:

  1. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
  2. Explain the difference between "God" and "LORD God".
  3. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ in the lab.
  4. The triune Godhead is a violation of what scientific law?
  5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
  6. What day was Adam created on?
  7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
  8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
  9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
  10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.
 
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QV please:

You would think that having created this test, you would get a perfect score on it. Seeing as how you wouldn't, what does that tell us?
 
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It'd be the difference between Bill Cosby and Billy Connolly. Though if it was done to music, I think that the fusion of the two would be equal to Chris Smithers on really good night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGvsmGe3CYM
 
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Of course.

I don't understand your question.

It's actually quite simple.

Even though you wrote the test, you yourself would not get a perfect score on it.

(Don't believe me? Fine; post the answers -- if you can.)

How valuable is a test when even the "teacher" gets it wrong?
 
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I voted 1. because most atheists will at least try to see both sides of any argument, while creationists can only remain creationists if they can keep themselves from seeing the other side.

Why else would creationists deny their children knowledge of evolution? if their religion is so true what do they have to fear?
How can creationists ever hope to argue against evolution if they don't even know what evolution is all about? have they never heard "know thine enemy"? if they don't know what they are fighting against how can they ever hope to defeat it?

I think that's called a "Catch 22" situation, if they know nothing about it they can't fight against it and if they know all about it they will know there's nothing to fight against.

How can anything that advocates ignorance or relies on ignorance to succeed be a good thing? that baffles me.

I have never met a creationist who has denied their children knowledge of evolution. They actually teach both sides. Their children have been taught the truth so evolution poses no problems. Some of you are truly ignorant ( don't you just love how derogatory that word sounds when applied to you) about what true creationists believe and teach their children. Knowledge is freedom. You are actually wrong about evolutionists too...most I know do not give any credit to creationism except to ridicule it.
 
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I have never met a creationist who has denied their children knowledge of evolution. They actually teach both sides. Their children have been taught the truth so evolution poses no problems. Some of you are truly ignorant ( don't you just love how derogatory that word sounds when applied to you) about what true creationists believe and teach their children. Knowledge is freedom. You are actually wrong about evolutionists too...most I know do not give any credit to creationism except to ridicule it.

Jennae, just YES or NO please:

Are we mutant copy errors, made in the image & likeness of God?
 
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I have never met a creationist who has denied their children knowledge of evolution. They actually teach both sides. Their children have been taught the truth so evolution poses no problems. Some of you are truly ignorant ( don't you just love how derogatory that word sounds when applied to you) about what true creationists believe and teach their children. Knowledge is freedom. You are actually wrong about evolutionists too...most I know do not give any credit to creationism except to ridicule it.

Both sides? Creationism isn't science.
 
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