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That's false and a blasphemous accusation, Mary is a human woman, she is not divine, she is a Immaculate Conceived perfect human being, but she is not God and she is not adored. But I go into this because this not a debate.My personal issue concerns the over-adoration of Mary. She's not God. Outside of that one thing, I can tolerate most other Catholic doctrines. Where I disagree with them, I just treat them the same way I treat the doctrines of many Protestant denominations. I ignore them. Not one church, Catholic or otherwise, has the right of it in all things. So I don't see the point in nit-picking and criticizing.
But the Mary bit does bother me. She's not God. She was a woman, blessed and called to do a great thing, much as Moses, Abraham, Samson, David, and so many others before her were called to do great things on God's behalf. And while I acknowledge that most Catholics do not consider Mary to be God, and would argue to the contrary, there are far too many prayers, praises, and similar. The actions of the Catholic church demonstrate that they regard her as divinity of some sort. Or at the very least as being someone or something of greater stature than the rest of us. Someone worthy of praying to. And all praise and prayer belongs to God alone.
Those are my thoughts.
It was only an attempt.Didn't you attempt that once before?
Hmm.. What's my biggest problem with Protestantism, I guess it could be the rejection of the Eucharist
I also have huge issues with their rejection (major understatement here, because I'm trying to be polite) of devotion to Mary, although as you pointed out, there are some Catholics who don't know, or even simply don't like the fact that devotion to Mary is essential for Salvation.
Well the Eucharist has been called the "Source and Summit of the Faith" and as I mentioned in an earlier post, if I were to say what my biggest issue with Protestantism is, I would probably go with the rejection of the Eucharist.What is the foremost doctrine, the first doctrine, the primary doctrine?
The poll is not set up to choose multiple options.Again, this is NOT a debate, this is a poll, I want to know which Catholic doctrine Protestants and other non-catholics have difficulty with the most. I've already decided what my next topic for a debate with Protestants will be, but I'm not going to be doing it for a very long time. Maybe if things go extraordinary well this summer, I'll start up the debate this August, but that's only if things go extraordinarily well with my other plans, I'd personally prefer to wait and plan on it as much as possible. That debate will be last free-style debate I'm having on here, after that I'm sticking to formal debates only, but I'm getting off topic here.
Anyways, please select which Catholic doctrine you have the biggest issues with in the poll, you can expand on it in the comment section, but NO inflammatory comments! Be as respectful as possible, this is not a debate!
The Eucharist is a symbol of the deeper doctrine, you need to reach a bit deeper into the revelation.Well the Eucharist has been called the "Source and Summit of the Faith" and as I mentioned in an earlier post, if I were to say what my biggest issue with Protestantism is, I would probably go with the rejection of the Eucharist.
But I'd hesitate to say if that would be "the foremost doctrine, the first doctrine, the primary doctrine," and we're most certainly not "Sola Eucharistia."
devotion to Mary is essential for Salvation.
By far, devotions to Mary and the Saints, it's the only reason I haven't signed up for RICA classes. It's the only reason I'm not Catholic now. I'm not all that worried about Sola Scriptura, the Apostolic authority of the New Testament is not something Rome will argue with very much. The sacraments cause a few thorny issues for me but I don't see a problem working through them as a layman, Rome is pretty tolerant with laymen within certain limits. I identify somewhat with church tradition and think it's a neglected field of study for Protestants.Again, this is NOT a debate, this is a poll, I want to know which Catholic doctrine Protestants and other non-catholics have difficulty with the most. I've already decided what my next topic for a debate with Protestants will be, but I'm not going to be doing it for a very long time. Maybe if things go extraordinary well this summer, I'll start up the debate this August, but that's only if things go extraordinarily well with my other plans, I'd personally prefer to wait and plan on it as much as possible. That debate will be last free-style debate I'm having on here, after that I'm sticking to formal debates only, but I'm getting off topic here.
Anyways, please select which Catholic doctrine you have the biggest issues with in the poll, you can expand on it in the comment section, but NO inflammatory comments! Be as respectful as possible, this is not a debate!
You are teaching a false gospel.
Mary was blessed, and privileged, to give birth to the Son of God. I agree with all that. But compulsory devotion if you want to be saved? No.
I didn't have to look long to find the one problem that causes me the most trouble. I can work with the other issues but devotions to Mary give me pause and Mary being the only way to approach Christ, I see nothing in the New Testament to support that.The poll is not set up to choose multiple options.
With respect, you said this thread was not for debating, but was merely a poll. You wanted to know "which Catholic doctrine Protestants and other non-catholics have difficulty with the most." I merely answered the question.That's false and a blasphemous accusation, Mary is a human woman, she is not divine, she is a Immaculate Conceived perfect human being, but she is not God and she is not adored. But I go into this because this not a debate.
Calling Mary God or divine, and saying that she is adored or worshipped is blasphemy.
I don't think abortion, marriage and contraception are the things people hate most about Rome, personally, I think it's something worthy of respect.I wonder if Catholic dogma on social morality might not bother more people in general than all of the above? Abortion, marriage, contraception, are what the world most hates about Catholicism.
That world includes many of a secular bent, as well as Protestants and more than a few Catholics too.
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