Where is your evidence creationists?

[someguy14]

Only when you ignore the bible. When one reads the bible a very different view emerges. Gods killing babies left and right (or telling others to do so)

God IS Love.
The Holy Bible was written by those in Love(God).
All in Love(God), are one.
Love is peace, joy, all things that are good.

 

[Fastener]

God IS Love.
The Holy Bible was written by those in Love(God).
All in Love(God), are one.
Love is peace, joy, all things that are good.

You are delusional.

 

[ianb321red]

You are delusional.

Coming from an atheist which is arguably one of the most self-deluded, self-defeating and illogical world views that exists.

Atheism is a self-defeating and illogical "belief" system (“atheism” - ἄθεος = ἀ- (a-, “not”) + θεός (theos, “god”) = ‘negative god’, so it affirms the non-existence of god, which philosophically affirms an absolute negative. It is self-defeating and a logical contradiction because you cannot affirm a negative in the absolute unless you have infinite knowledge.......which no one has...

Atheism is possibly the best synonym for delusional....

 

[Fastener]

Coming from an atheist which is arguably one of the most self-deluded, self-defeating and illogical world views that exists.

Atheism is a self-defeating and illogical "belief" system (“atheism” - ἄθεος = ἀ- (a-, “not&#8221 + θεός (theos, “god&#8221 = ‘negative god’, so it affirms the non-existence of god, which philosophically affirms an absolute negative. It is self-defeating and a logical contradiction because you cannot affirm a negative in the absolute unless you have infinite knowledge.......which no one has...

Atheism is possibly the best synonym for delusional....

Which out of the thousands of Gods were you given? I believe in one less God than you.

 

[CabVet]

Coming from an atheist which is arguably one of the most self-deluded, self-defeating and illogical world views that exists.

Atheism is a self-defeating and illogical "belief" system (“atheism” - ἄθεος = ἀ- (a-, “not”) + θεός (theos, “god”) = ‘negative god’, so it affirms the non-existence of god, which philosophically affirms an absolute negative. It is self-defeating and a logical contradiction because you cannot affirm a negative in the absolute unless you have infinite knowledge.......which no one has...

Atheism is possibly the best synonym for delusional....

I don't know where you get your definitions, but atheism is not a belief system. Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. Since there is no evidence for the existence of deities, atheism is by definition not delusional.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't know where you get your definitions, but atheism is not a belief system. Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. Since there is no evidence for the existence of deities, atheism is by definition not delusional.

If I was an "atheist", I wouldn't complain.

Would you prefer we call you what the Bible calls you?

ETA: LOL -- I just noticed you're an Agnostic --

I can't tell you guys apart without your faith icons.

Please disregard my post.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't know where you get your definitions, but atheism is not a belief system.

Sorry, agnostic -- I don't consider you qualified to speak for true atheists.

You might think that, but I'd rather hear it from a real atheist.

(No offense -- )

 

[CabVet]

Sorry, agnostic -- I don't consider you qualified to speak for true atheists.

You might think that, but I'd rather hear it from a real atheist.

(No offense -- )

I am not speaking for atheists, I am giving a definition of what atheism is, and I am quite capable of doing that.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am not speaking for atheists, I am giving a definition of what atheism is, and I am quite capable of doing that.

Then I don't believe you -- case closed.

 

[CabVet]

Then I don't believe you -- case closed.

Yep, you are quite good at not believing definitions. (No offense )

 

[AV1611VET]

Yep, you are quite good at not believing definitions. (No offense )

Definitions today are not nearly what they used to be.

Today, they are watered-down, spineless, candy-coated, mixed-up hybrids of what they used to be.

 

[ianb321red]

I don't know where you get your definitions, but atheism is not a belief system. Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. Since there is no evidence for the existence of deities, atheism is by definition not delusional.

..so you obviously didn't note the ironic quotation marks either side of "belief" system

Of course it isn't a belief system - that's the blindingly obviously point I'm making in the first place!!

And btw, your definition proves my point very nicely - your making an absolute claim for a negative. Thanks for unwittingly supporting my argument

 

[CabVet]

..so you obviously didn't note the ironic quotation marks either side of "belief" system

Of course it isn't a belief system - that's the blindingly obviously point I'm making in the first place!!

And btw, your definition proves my point very nicely - your making an absolute claim for a negative. Thanks for unwittingly supporting my argument

If it is not a belief, it is not a delusion, which was your point. Delusion: a false belief held with absolute conviction.

 

[AV1611VET]

If it is not a belief, it is not a delusion, which was your point. Delusion: a false belief held with absolute conviction.

Like Thalidomide as a prenatal wonder drug, or the Challenger 'go for throttle-up'?

 

[CabVet]

Like Thalidomide as a prenatal wonder drug, or the Challenger 'go for throttle-up'?

And what does that have to do with belief and delusion?

 

[AV1611VET]

And what does that have to do with belief and delusion?

Nothing, in my opinion; but if you define 'delusion' as:

Delusion: a false belief held with absolute conviction.

... then I'll take this definition with a grain of salt.

They held the false belief that the Challenger was safe with absolute conviction.

Unless, of course, you're saying that scientists are immune to 'delusion?'

In which case, I'll definitely take it with a grain of salt.

 

[CabVet]

Nothing, in my opinion; but if you define 'delusion' as:

... then I'll take this definition with a grain of salt.

They held the false belief that the Challenger was safe with absolute conviction.

Unless, of course, you're saying that scientists are immune to 'delusion?'

No scientist in its right mind would say that a ship propelled by 19,744 cu ft of liquid oxygen is "safe". If you have a quote of a scientist saying that, please post it. Better, if you have a quote of a scientist saying that traveling by airplane or car is "safe with absolute conviction", post that too. I don't have absolute conviction that a meteor will not hit me in the head when I go out today.

 

[AV1611VET]

No scientist in its right mind would say that a ship propelled by 19,744 cu ft of liquid oxygen is "safe".

Excuse me -- 'go for throttle-up' then.

 

[CabVet]

Excuse me -- 'go for throttle-up' then.

What does that have to do with anything? Regardless of what was said and done, everyone involved in the mission understood there were risks. And why are we talking about this anyways? Weren't we talking about definitions of atheism? This forum cracks me up sometimes.

 

[AV1611VET]

What does that have to do with anything? Regardless of what was said and done, everyone involved in the mission understood there were risks. And why are we talking about this anyways? Weren't we talking about definitions of atheism?

No, we're talking about the definition of 'delusion'; that you brought up.

And now that I've brought your sacred whitecoats into the picture, you suddenly want to get back on topic.

This forum cracks me up sometimes.

Then don't give your logon out in study hall or wherever.