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Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by visionary, Oct 24, 2020.

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  1. Oct 24, 2020 #1
    visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    I found this section of theology but it is in a debatable section of the CF forums. My question is where can Sabbath believers go to meet with other Sabbath/Shabbat believers to share and grow without harassments on every inch?
     
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    HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Well Sabbath keepers have different understandings of what it means to keep the Sabbath. Debating the fine points of YHWH's perfect Torah, can be a growing experience.

    It's those who would attack us, for being obedient to YHWH, that are of no benefit.

    (CLV) Col 2:16
    Let no one, then, be judging you in food or in drink or in the particulars of a festival, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,

    (CLV) Col 2:17
    which are a shadow of those things which are impending—yet the body is the Christ's.
     
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  3. Oct 24, 2020 #3
    TzephanYahu

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    My friend, if only I knew. We are in the minority at the moment. Although that seems to be changing, especially over the past year, as more Christians wake up to the Sabbath. HalleluYah

    For now, all I can recommend is online fellowship every Shabbat on YouTube with a channel called Parable of the Vineyard. They meet every Sabbath and have live chat.

    Hopefully someone else can recommend something more substantial for you.

    Love & Shalom
     
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  4. Oct 24, 2020 #4
    clefty

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    the trick is to share and grow BECAUSE of the harassments...lol

    IRONY sharpens iron...

    Sadly even within Sabbath keeping fellowships the stoning continues...ask Paul...

    btw we will always be the minority as hated for His name’s sake...they hated Him first...

    so...welcome...and yes happy Sabbath ...
     
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  5. Oct 25, 2020 #5
    BobRyan

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    There are denomination specific areas for Messianic Jews, and also one for Seventh-day Adventists that are for Sabbath keepers.
     
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  6. Oct 25, 2020 #6
    visionary

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    That is not a place where Sabbath keepers from different denominations can post without infringing upon each other's denomination specific issues.
     
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  7. Oct 26, 2020 #7
    BobRyan

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    I find that I can post in almost every area (almost) even in the "Just ask a question but don't oppose " threads as long as I stick to areas that we have in common or just ask for clarification on something.
     
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  8. Oct 26, 2020 #8
    visionary

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    When I am in the "just ask' areas I do just that. But what I would like is a area where Sabbath keepers can enlarge their understanding within the Sabbatarian community that isn't among those who are of their congregational beliefs but might have insights that are helpful. As it is right now, this area is for contention, controversary, and debates. It is not a share and grow spot.
     
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  9. Oct 26, 2020 #9
    clefty

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    We put on the whole armor of Yah because of contention controversy and debates lol

    Paul was not hated by the world so much as by his own within his safe space

    Sharing and growing is sadly hated more by those within this space than without

    Hope you find a suitable space
     
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    visionary

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    From that I gather, you would rather do battle and study and prayerfully consider spiritual growth.
     
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  11. Oct 26, 2020 #11
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    lol...I guess so...

    but yes study and prayerful consideration does lead to growth and yet growing pains are all part of it...just as conception and birth are...and then it gets dicey

    it's just that Truth is provocative in a world of darkness and lies...and it is NOT so much us vs them as it is us vs us...so we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling...

    WITH LOVE...as He loved us...

    He even taught He came with a sword and to divide sons from fathers etc...His disciples even bickered...Paul rebuke Peter and He Himself provoked Pharisees and Samaritan women...lol

    Those shepherds that cry "Peace! Peace!...can't we all get along" also make me suspicious as there is lamenting to do and a righteous hatred of SIN and its counterfeit and a deep need for cleansing to be done...even throwing those out to Satan...

    Bible is full of movers and shakers and fighters...

    Notice who gets rejected first...

    Rev 21:8But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.

    I mean it is a war out here against powers and principalities so I even sleep with my boots on...lol

    Again hope you find your solace...as quiet study and prayers do support those of us who battle fuss and fight...keeps us on target...for Him...and others

    HalleluYah
     
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  12. Oct 28, 2020 #12
    HARK!

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    You could suggest a new forum. Suggest New Forums

    I would like to see it come to pass.

    It could even be as simple as a pinned thread in this subforum, a safehouse for Sabbath keepers.
     
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    Thanks I hope they let that get started!
     
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    HARK!

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    It seems to be gaining traction. If anyone has any ideas; I'd welcome them to express them in that thread. In my experience these suggestion threads don't last very long.
     
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    Love this idea!!!
     
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    visionary

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    Thank you for the thread Hark.. maybe we will get our safe haven afterall.
     
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    HARK!

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    You're welcome. It's still open for discussion; so I would encourage everyone who supports this, to show their support to the Staff here: 7th Day Safehouse

    I've seen people who support it; who haven't posted in that thread.
     
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    HARK!

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    I know of several Sabbath keepers, right off the top of my head, who are on this site, who are not MJs nor SDAs. Where is their safe place? I consider you a friend, as well as other SDAs who I'm acquainted with. I don't fully understand the SDAs beliefs; so I'm reluctant to get into a deep conversation in the SDA forum, in caution of inadvertently violating the SOP of that forum. I suppose that you might have the same concerns in the MJ forum.

    So for all of us, regardless of denomination: Where is the common ground for Sabbath keepers; where we can speak freely with each other; and share our understandings, without naysayers coming in and derailing our friendly conversations?

    We can do it in PMs; but who places their light under a basket? I've enjoyed the debates that I've had with the SDAs in our letters. We haven't squabbled over what the scripture says. Instead we've pointed to scripture to help each other grow. I've learned a lot from you all. Wouldn't it be nice if others could benefit from our discussions?
     
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