Where is a "6000 year old earth" found in scripture?

[Hoghead1]

I disagree, Riberra, with your view of Gen. 1:2. It simply states God is working with some sort of chaos, which maybe he himself first created in order to work from there, or something that preexisted, fo5r an unknown reason. The idea of a previous earth, then, is strictly ruled out. At no point does the Bible ever speak of a previous earth, to begin with.

 

[Riberra]

I disagree, Riberra, with your view of Gen. 1:2. It simply states God is working with some sort of chaos, which maybe he himself first created in order to work from there, or something that preexisted, fo5r an unknown reason. The idea of a previous earth, then, is strictly ruled out. At no point does the Bible ever speak of a previous earth, to begin with.

The subject is not about a "previous" Earth but about a previous STATE of the Earth which was created perfect in Genesis 1:1 which became a desolation ...for the reason given here:

http://www.worldeventsandthebible.com/2009/11/world-that-then-was-age-of-earth.html

We live actually in the Second Earth AGE ....

If you want to know what the Earth will look like in the Third Earth AGE -after the millennium - see Revelation 21

Revelation 21
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Same Earth without sea.(oceans)

 

[-57]

He was a murderer from the beginning = CAIN

There is another verse saying that they are Jebusites desendant of the Kenites....which relate them as being Cain's decendants....at least one of the wife of the sons of Noah was a Kenite.

He was a murderer from the beginning = Satan......if you actually read the verse you would clearly see that. No where does it even mention Cain.

 

[-57]

I disagree, Riberra, with your view of Gen. 1:2. It simply states God is working with some sort of chaos, which maybe he himself first created in order to work from there, or something that preexisted, fo5r an unknown reason. The idea of a previous earth, then, is strictly ruled out. At no point does the Bible ever speak of a previous earth, to begin with.

Hey, we agree!!!

 

[Riberra]

He was a murderer from the beginning = Satan......if you actually read the verse you would clearly see that. No where does it even mention Cain.

That is Cain who killed Abel in the Garden of Eden (he was a murderer from the beginning) not Satan.

 

[-57]

That is Cain who killed Abel in the Garden of Eden (he was a murderer from the beginning) not Satan.

What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?

 

[Riberra]

What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?

I made a typo,But the fact remain that this is Cain who Killed Abel, not Satan as you claim.So the sentence -he was a murderer from the beginning - mentionned in John 8:44 refers to Cain ...

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

 

[Riberra]

Seriously? My post showed how the account of the deception of Eve had nothing to do with Satan sexually seducing Eve...and you offer a cut and paste job?

NEXT

... from the link:
http://www.worldeventsandthebible.com/2013/10/the-garden-of-eden-origins-of-satans.html

“Beguiled” is Strong’s word 5377 and it means “seduce.” We already documented the serpent is Satan and he literally sexually seduced Eve. Do you understand what happens when you seduce a woman?


King James Bible
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Genesis 3:13
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent
beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent (SATAN), Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Isaiah 37:10 “Thus shall you speak to Hezekiah king of Judah: ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you by promising that Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.

Perhaps we should translate that same word as sexually seduced?

Jer 4:10 also uses the word.....Then I said, “Ah, Lord GOD, surely you have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘It shall be well with you,’ whereas the sword has reached their very life.”

Should we also change it to sexually seduced?

Do you notice that your two examples Isaiah 37:10 and Jer 4:10 use the Word DECEIVED NOT THE WORD BEGUILED.

 

[-57]

Riberra,
You lost.
Give it up.

 

[-57]

I made a typo,But the fact remain that this is Cain who Killed Abel, not Satan as you claim.So the sentence -he was a murderer from the beginning - mentionned in John 8:44 refers to Cain ...

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Riberra
You lost.
Give it up.

 

[Riberra]

[He was a murderer from the beginning = Satan......if you actually read the verse you would clearly see that. No where does it even mention Cain.

Riberra
You lost.
Give it up.

Everything you have offered are non validated argument.

Can you give the name of someone who have been killed by Satan mentionned in the Bible ?

If you cannot back your claim with scripture you have loosed.

 

[Riberra]

Hi,

I am not in this conversation. This is between you two.

However, if what we call the surface of the earth today, was with no valleys and no mountains, when the earth like that was formless and void, possibly meaning no land was yet above the more than mile thick water that would today cover such a planar or flattened earth, then back then no light would hit the surface as light pretty much starts to be zero at about 200 feet with our eyes.

Plausibly, a flat earth surface, with water above it, would satisfy, dark, formless and void.

Tectonic plate activity, made the mountains and the valleys, both in the ocean and out of it.

LOVE,

Hi!
Based on the description of the state -into which the Earth's became- described in Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 1:6-7
the Earth looked probably like this. The surface of the planet was totally flooded and with time the atmosphere of the Earth became totally saturated with water vapor which at some point blocked totally the light coming from the Sun.
-You are right to say that there was a ground below the water..-Genesis 1:2 talk about the Earth's surface totally flooded and starting from Genesis 1:2b and beyond God begin the regeneration of the Earth to an habitable state like it was in Genesis 1:1

Genesis 1:6-7
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were UNDER the firmament FROM the waters which were ABOVE the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven

Note:
-And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were UNDER the firmament =liquid water totally flooding the whole Earth's surface

from the waters which were ABOVE the firmament = water vapor saturating and covering the whole atmosphere of the Earth totally blocking the light coming from the Sun

Complete description here.
http://www.worldeventsandthebible.com/2009/11/world-that-then-was-age-of-earth.html

 

[-57]

Can you give the name of someone who have been killed by Satan mentionned in the Bible ?

Riberra
You lost.
Give it up.

 

[Riberra]

Riberra
You lost.
Give it up.

You are the one who lost ....you cannot back up your claim with the Bible.

Can you give the name of someone who have been killed by Satan mentionned in the Bible ?

 

[yeshuasavedme]

What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?

He has no biblical basis for such things.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

He was a murderer from the beginning = CAIN

There is another verse saying that they are Jebusites desendant of the Kenites....which relate them as being Cain's decendants....at least one of the wife of the sons of Noah was a Kenite.

That is totally false.
The history of the Patriarchs as recorded in the Real Book of Jasher -not the pseudo Jashers that are out there and proven false, but the real Book of the Upright that correlates with Torah totally, says this:
34 In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded.

chapter 5:35
Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah.

only Enoch's descendants, through Methuselah, son of Enoch, the seventh from Adam, through Seth, survived the flood in the Ark.

Noah's wife was the daughter of Enoch, also:
13 And Noah was a just man, he was perfect in his generation, and the Lord chose him to raise up seed from his seed upon the face of the earth.
14 And the Lord said unto Noah, Take unto thee a wife, and beget children, for I have seen thee righteous before me in this generation.
15 And thou shalt raise up seed, and thy children with thee, in the midst of the earth; and Noah went and took a wife, and he chose Naamah/Naomi, the daughter of Enoch, and she was five hundred and eighty years old.
16 And Noah was four hundred and ninety-eight years old, when he took Naamah for a wife.

 

[Riberra]

[quote -57]

What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?

He has no biblical basis for such things.
[/QUOTE]
I have made a mistake when I said that Cain have killed Abel in the Garden of Eden.

Cain have killed Abel outside the Garden of Eden.

-57 claim is that that is Satan who is the murderer from the beginning....

 

[-57]

He has no biblical basis for such things.

I have made a mistake when I said that Cain have killed Abel in the Garden of Eden.

Cain have killed Abel outside the Garden of Eden.

-57 claim is that that is Satan who is the murderer from the beginning....[/QUOTE]

I truly appreciate you for recognizing the truth of the bible.

Yes, cain was the first mentioned in the bible for killing another...but...when Jesus mentions "Satan who is the murderer from the beginning"...that's also truth.

 

[-57]

He was a murderer from the beginning = CAIN

There is another verse saying that they are Jebusites desendant of the Kenites....which relate them as being Cain's decendants....at least one of the wife of the sons of Noah was a Kenite.

Why would that matter?

 

[Riberra]

That is totally false.
The history of the Patriarchs as recorded in the Real Book of Jasher -not the pseudo Jashers that are out there and proven false, but the real Book of the Upright that correlates with Torah totally, says this:
34 In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded.

chapter 5:35
Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah.

only Enoch's descendants, through Methuselah, son of Enoch, the seventh from Adam, through Seth, survived the flood in the Ark.

Noah's wife was the daughter of Enoch, also:
13 And Noah was a just man, he was perfect in his generation, and the Lord chose him to raise up seed from his seed upon the face of the earth.
14 And the Lord said unto Noah, Take unto thee a wife, and beget children, for I have seen thee righteous before me in this generation.
15 And thou shalt raise up seed, and thy children with thee, in the midst of the earth; and Noah went and took a wife, and he chose Naamah/Naomi, the daughter of Enoch, and she was five hundred and eighty years old.
16 And Noah was four hundred and ninety-eight years old, when he took Naamah for a wife.

Can you explain how the Kenites which are the descendants of Cain have survived the Flood? The Kenites are mentionned AFTER the Flood?.... Good swimmers maybe.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Kenites/

"KENITES" in the KJV Bible


Genesis 15:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,

Numbers 24:21 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And he looked on the Kenites, and took up his parable, and said, Strong is thy dwellingplace, and thou puttest thy nest in a rock.

Judges 4:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Now Heber the Kenite, which was of the children of Hobab the father in law of Moses, had severed himself from the Kenites, and pitched his tent unto the plain of Zaanaim, which is by Kedesh.

1 Samuel 15:6 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.

1 Samuel 27:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And Achish said, Whither have ye made a road to day? And David said, Against the south of Judah, and against the south of the Jerahmeelites, and against the south of the Kenites.

1 Samuel 30:29 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And to them which were in Rachal, and to them which were in the cities of the Jerahmeelites, and to them which were in the cities of the Kenites,

1 Chronicles 2:55 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.