Where gravity and forces come from..!

[dad]

To be strictly accurate: You say God claimed he was the Father. Of course if God were an abusive drunk, as some fathers are, it would explain much.

So let us get this straight. You associate fathers with abusive drunks. OK. Let me guess you gravitate towards a love for your mother, as Sigmund did?

 

[AV1611VET]

So let us get this straight. You associate fathers with abusive drunks. OK. Let me guess you gravitate towards a love for your mother, as Sigmund did?

Either that, or you may want to study the background of the one who started the religion he is in.

It's kind of like saying, "My founder left his wife and child, therefore yours [insert infraction of choice]".

Only with Jesus, there's nothing you can accuse Him of:

Matthew 26:59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;

Matthew 26:60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,

But, of course, that won't stop these guys from doing it anyway.

 

[Gracchus]

So let us get this straight. You associate fathers with abusive drunks. OK. Let me guess you gravitate towards a love for your mother, as Sigmund did?

Some fathers are abusive drunks. Some are not. And I have met people who detested both parents.
What I am saying is that I have observed in my life that many of "God's children" are abused, starved, debauched and corrupted, and the supposedly omiscient, omnipotent and benevolent daddy does not protect or provide for them.
My relationships with my own parents are moot, inasmuch as they are both long dead.

 

[AV1611VET]

What I am saying is that I have observed in my life that many of "God's children" are abused, starved, debauched and corrupted...

Don't forget these, while you're at it:

Hebrews 10:35a ... and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Hebrews 10:36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:

Hebrews 10:37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;

And notice what God says of them:

Hebrews 10:38a ( Of whom the world was not worthy: )

And, of course, let's not forget Paul, who spoke as an atheist to make this point:

2 Corinthians 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.

2 Corinthians 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.

2 Corinthians 11:25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

2 Corinthians 11:26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;

2 Corinthians 11:27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.

 

[Cabal]

Either that, or you may want to study the background of the one who started the religion he is in.

It's kind of like saying, "My founder left his wife and child, therefore yours [insert infraction of choice]".

Only with Jesus, there's nothing you can accuse Him of:

But, of course, that won't stop these guys from doing it anyway.

Well, there's that moment where Jesus rejects his family in front of an entire crowd.

But I'm sure you forgot all about that while trying to bash Buddhism.

 

[ug333]

Well, if things were neither male nor female, I am not sure what else you think they were. Or claim they were. Or weren't.

No I wasn't. Of course it exists. So? The issue is how all creatures reproduced, man and beast and fish, and plants, etc, without being created male and female as evos claim.

Life on earth started asexual, then evolved to create sexual reproduction. Humans and other complex species have always reproduced sexually.

Evidence? Several species exist that reproduce both sexually and asexually. They also exist in the genetic tree where evolution would expect them to exist.

So the first thing with the capacity for sexual reproduction didn't reproduce sexually, but asexually. Only later would sexual reproduction have begun.

 

[Spiegelman's Monster]

Anyone know what causes gravity? Exactly? How about the strong or weak nuclear forces? How about atomic spin? Where do the forces in our universe, or part of it, come from? How did they get there, according to science? Why must they be as they are?

For Christians, the answer is obvious. God created it, and set it up that way. Intelligently designed, and set in motion.


Science knows somewhat about how physical laws work, but not what they are!

This is one reason we may not assume our laws will be here till the universe dies from them. Or that they were here at creation.

Gravitons R.I.P.


So, laws here in our physical world, and environs are set up for here and now. Not forever.

Even though God set it up, does that mean it can't have a definable mechanism? Who says he didn't set it up with gravitons?

 

[Spiegelman's Monster]

Either that, or you may want to study the background of the one who started the religion he is in.

It's kind of like saying, "My founder left his wife and child, therefore yours [insert infraction of choice]".

Only with Jesus, there's nothing you can accuse Him of:

Matthew 26:59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;

Matthew 26:60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,

But, of course, that won't stop these guys from doing it anyway.

Remind me how many of the apostles left their families to follow Jesus?

 

[AV1611VET]

Remind me how many of the apostles left their families to follow Jesus?

And who did Guatama leave his family to follow?

 

[Cabal]

And who did Guatama leave his family to follow?

Brilliant!

Join us next week for another hilarious episode of "But It's OK When Christians Do It!"

 

[AV1611VET]

Brilliant!

Join us next week for another hilarious episode of "But It's OK When Christians Do It!"

Either that, or answer the question.

 

[Spiegelman's Monster]

And who did Guatama leave his family to follow?

*Bwarrrp* Foul! Answering a question with a question, point goes to me.

 

[Spiegelman's Monster]

Either that, or answer the question.

Let him without sin cast the first stone.

 

[Gracchus]

And who did Guatama leave his family to follow?

It wasn't a who.

It was a what. Call it truth, wisdom, or enlightenment.

It is not as if he left his family unprovided for.

Moreover, it was an established tradition in that culture for a man, having reached a certain age, to leave his wife and children in the care of his family and enter the "religious" life.

But, in any case, Buddhism is not related to Siddartha in the same way that Christianity is supposed to be related to Jesus. Anyone can travel the eight-fold path, even if they have never heard of Siddartha Gotama. And Buddhism is merely a tool that can be abandoned or passed on to another when enlightenment is attained.

 

[Cabal]

Either that, or answer the question.

That was the sound of a point being missed on your part.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is not as if he left his family unprovided for.

Tell that to his son, who grew up w/o a daddy.

Money isn't the answer to everything.

It couldn't even keep the Beatles together.

 

[Spiegelman's Monster]

Tell that to his son, who grew up w/o a daddy.

Money isn't the answer to everything.

It couldn't even keep the Beatles together.

Jesus grew up without his biological father. He seemed to do OK.

 

[AV1611VET]

Jesus grew up without his biological father. He seemed to do OK.

Jesus didn't have a biological father.

 

[Spiegelman's Monster]

Jesus didn't have a biological father.

...and he seemed to do OK.

 

[AV1611VET]

...and he seemed to do OK.

Jesus is God -- Gautama was not.

Jesus did not commit any crime -- Gautama would have been arrested over here.

Jesus had no biological children -- Gautama was what we call a 'deadbeat dad'.

I'm sure you see the differences.