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Like I predicted...
"And don't try to get around it by saying God would never give you such an option or anything like that. Assume that it really is God, and the offer is genuine."
In any case, since you are claiming that this is something God can't do, you've just p[roved God is not all powerful.
lol... My terse posts function in part as troll tests. You failed.
How am I trolling?
You've said that this is something God can't do, which means he is not all powerful.
Because you're aiming for facile "gotcha" opportunities as someone who is presumably intelligent enough to understand the lay of the land and the obvious rebuttals.
It's not exactly a new idea that omnipotence doesn't extend to contradictions. It's been around for millenia. Are you honestly unaware of this?
(Nonsensical propositions lack a proper referent. "Square circle" is just a lexical string of meaningless gibberish.)
And yet you have completely avoided answering my other question - Did God create the laws of logic? Because depending on how you answer that, your points here will become invalid.
Not really. "Law of logic" is a reification. Different philosophers will assign different ontological weight to such "laws," but my last response attempted to prescind from those debates and answer the question in a more definitive way. Words refer to ideas and ideas can be coherent or incoherent. Incoherent ideas--which include logical contradictions--have no referent in reality, as explained above. Such an incoherence has no intelligibility, nothing to be instantiated. The inability to instantiate literal nonsense is not a sign of a lack of power.
Is this directed at me?
Morality
principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior
The principles set forth by God are the moral standards mankind was originally created to live by. However, God created mankind with freewill and we chose/choose otherwise. Mankind is unable to achieve Gods' moral standards without relying on God
and so ...
the result is what we see and experience now .... and yes ... most living by man-made principle/standards (of which each sets for themselves) rather than those as set forth by God.
God is not the failure ... we are.
Where does morality come from? How are you defining morality? I define morality as the ability to understand the consequences of actions and how they effect me and my neighbor. And it starts from the position that what is helpful to me and my neighbor is good, and what is harmful to me and my neighbor is bad.I have another very important question to ask of everyone.
I am a firm believer in God and believe that morality is certainly derived from Him and Him alone... that being said, however, I'm wondering how a person would debate this with someone like an Atheist? Atheists do not believe in God, so telling them that morality comes from God would probably not be all that convincing.
If morality comes from God and God only, then there would obviously be no other answer to tell anyone who was asking since the truth is objective and not just some kind of malleable or subjective reality. But, even still, how would someone discuss this point with an Atheist who clearly does not believe in God and seems highly unlikely to cave in to the idea?
Why is it that something can't be A and Not A at the same time? Is that something God decided on, it did that come from somewhere else?
It's just how reality works. It seems like you have some issues with confronting reality.
I have another very important question to ask of everyone.
I am a firm believer in God and believe that morality is certainly derived from Him and Him alone... that being said, however, I'm wondering how a person would debate this with someone like an Atheist? Atheists do not believe in God, so telling them that morality comes from God would probably not be all that convincing.
If morality comes from God and God only, then there would obviously be no other answer to tell anyone who was asking since the truth is objective and not just some kind of malleable or subjective reality. But, even still, how would someone discuss this point with an Atheist who clearly does not believe in God and seems highly unlikely to cave in to the idea?
No. It works that way because it is a logical contradiction. IOW if God said otherwise, God would be wrong.But why does it work that way? Didn't God decide that's the way reality was going to work?
No. It works that way because it is a logical contradiction. IOW if God said otherwise, God would be wrong.
So then God is limited by what logic allows? In other words, God can't do things that are logically impossible?
Logical impossibilities have no meaning. You might as well ask if colorless green ideas can sleep furiously.
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