Discussion Where do false prophets go

[mourningdove~]

(p.s.)

Prayers for President Trump and his family today ...

 

[tturt]

Agree with you that we were too comfortable.

Chuck Pierce had given a Jan 18 date. So I am continuing to pray and believe for God's will and purposes to be manifest. Yes continuing for President Trump.

 

[paul1149]

There is one more case before the Supreme Court. I continue to pray and believe. This could be a Lazarus situation, where God gets more glory by showing up "late". Hank Kuneman has even said to look to the month of March for a turnaround. That seems to conflict with Pierce's Jan 18 date, but perhaps not.

God can certainly do anything. We should not allow what has happened to in any way affect our faith in Him; He always rewards those that seek His face.

This remains operative:

First of all, then, I urge that entreaties [and] prayers, petitions [and] thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. - 1Ti 2:1-4
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Stand fast in the truth, and resist the devil's wiles.

 

[mourningdove~]

I would so love for the prophecies to be right ...
and for me to have to come back to this thread and admit that I was wrong.
( )

I do certainly believe that all things are possible with God.
And I have felt reminded all along, that God will not give His glory to another ...
that were Donald Trump to win, it would be another 'God deal', like his first presidential win.

I do believe Trump won the re-election. And that this win was stolen from him.
I've listened to much of the evidence regarding fraud; there is too much to honestly ignore.
But the powers working against Trump are very strong ...
it will take a miracle from God, to turn this whole thing around.

I admit that today I no longer have the faith to believe in this particular miracle ...
which makes it hard to continue to pray for it ...
but I admire that many others do have the faith.
God bless you!

 

[geetrue]

I don't usually watch Sid Roth, but here's his take on why so many prophets said Trump would win and with only 13 days left he still thinks that Trump will win.

He's not alone Dutch Sheets still believes too

Plus this prophet Albert Milton (don't judge him now)

Remember to pray God's will be done so when it happens you don't take any glory away from Him

 

[paul1149]

Perhaps this will encourage you. All of it, but particularly what Lance says at around 45m.

SPECIAL God's Unfolding Plan! (Jan. 6, 2021) - Flashpoint

 

[mourningdove~]

I will come back later to watch the videos posted.

Tonite, I came here to quickly post a video that the President just posted tonite on Twitter.
(It would appear his Twitter account has now been reopened, though Facebook and Instagram shut down his accounts today thru the 'end' of his presidency.)

Note, at the end of this video, the President says: "Our incredible journey is only just beginning."
Interesting comment.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1347334804052844550

 

[lismore]

There is another option:

Jeremiah 14:14 Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds"

 

[geetrue]

Oh no lismore ... God hasn't sent me any where all He did is whisper to me and then I shared it.

Here's my latest whisper:
I was hesitate to share this at first, but Christmas day the Lord said, "Something will happen in the next (20) days" = January 14th

 

[mourningdove~]

There is another option:

Jeremiah 14:14 Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds"

Hi lismore

Yes, that is certainly another option.
And there may come a time to make that determination.
However, strange as it sounds, it is possible that it is not yet the time to do so ...

I do not know how things are in Scotland, but our society here in America is quite full of chaos and uncertainty and confusion at this time. This has been going on now for several years, notably since the Democrat Party/globalists/progressives/socialists/marxists lost the election to Donald Trump in 2016. But things have really gotten crazy this year, with the 2020 election happening ... and now again, with the 'apparent' changing of Administrations in the White House, later this month.

Amidst all this chaos, many of us here are learning to live with the unexpected ... to expect the unexpected ... every day! I certainly am. And so, while it 'could' sound very 'far-fetched' for one to still believe in the election prophecies that one has heard ... it really isn't so 'far-fetched' as it seems, given the unpredictable times in which we find ourselves living ...

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Hi lismore

Yes, that is certainly another option.
And there may come a time to make that determination.
However, strange as it sounds, it is possible that it is not yet the time to do so ...

I do not know how things are in Scotland, but our society here in America is quite full of chaos and uncertainty and confusion at this time. This has been going on now for several years, notably since the Democrat Party/globalists/progressives/socialists/marxists lost the election to Donald Trump in 2016. But things have really gotten crazy this year, with the 2020 election happening ... and now again, with the 'apparent' changing of Administrations in the White House, later this month.

Amidst all this chaos, many of us here are learning to live with the unexpected ... to expect the unexpected ... every day! I certainly am. And so, while it 'could' sound very 'far-fetched' for one to still believe in the election prophecies that one has heard ... it really isn't so 'far-fetched' as it seems, given the unpredictable times in which we find ourselves living ...

Wow, you put that way better than I could have.

I don't deny that it appears very much as if the "prophets" got it wrong but until January 20 Donald Trump is still President and anything could happen. My personal thoughts on the matter are that if God indeed "has said" that Trump is to have a second term then it will happen in a way that the world along with Trump will be astounded and know that it is ONLY God who has done it, not any of the legal human means that can be accomplished by Trump or anyone else.

 

[tturt]

Yeah agree Had posted earlier - are we at the place yet where only God gets the credit?

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Yeah agree Had posted earlier - are we at the place yet where only God gets the credit?

LOL When we get there, we need to stay there.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

(p.s.)

Prayers for President Trump and his family today ...

I think he's in a state of being humbled. Actually, that's a good place. Not comfortable, but good.

 

[paul1149]

Yeah agree Had posted earlier - are we at the place yet where only God gets the credit?

I think he's in a state of being humbled. Actually, that's a good place. Not comfortable, but good.

There are two things I see as necessary for an intervention. First, that President Trump himself is in such a place where he realizes that all his efforts have come to naught, and that only God can save the election, and indeed the nation. This is a process of humbling. The first few chapters of Daniel depict a very powerful and proud king, Nebuchadnezzar, who in successive stages is confronted with the reality of God's power, then is broken, and then finally realizes that ~it is God who reigns in the affairs of men~. At that very point, lesson learned, as a changed man his personal wellbeing and his kingdom is restored to him.

The second necessary thing is that the revelation of the corruption and evil that has been ruining this nation for decades, and this election in particular, must be so clear and so great that it smites the national consciousness and "hurts our eyes open", so that the nation will come together and as one reject the fruits of unrighteousness, and not only turn around the false election result, but also chart a new generational spiritual course going forward, a return to our godly foundation.

In God's perfect economy, He very often works in simultaneous multiple levels like this - here the personal and the corporate. In this case the corporate is the nation, but it is also the church. As Lance brought out the other night, it is those who stay true to what God wants to do, even when all outer signs seem to show that all is lost, who will be positioned for promotion in the next season.

 

[mourningdove~]

Perhaps this will encourage you. All of it, but particularly what Lance says at around 45m.

SPECIAL God's Unfolding Plan! (Jan. 6, 2021) - Flashpoint

Amazing. What Lance shares is what is 'leaking out' today via multiple non-mainstream media sources. It is amazing, because there IS plenty of video evidence surfacing now to show that the riot on Wednesday was started by agitators; persons that infiltrated the Trump protest. But I'm not seeing anything yet on this being reported on MSM. The talk there is all about impeachment orders being written up on Monday, the removal of President Trump under the 25th Amendment, declaring Trump supporters as "domestic terrorists", etc.

It IS encouraging to see the truth start to come out. I wonder for how long the MSM can suppress this information; the left is wanting so desperately to destroy Trump. I cannot bear to watch much of any of it right now; the "feeding frenzy" surrounding our President is really quite horrible to watch.

President Donald Trump has fought for 4 years, to do the things he promised he would do.
He fought hard, worked tirelessly, for the things that are important to many of us.
I feel very strongly now, the need to fight for him and his family, with prayer ...

And I do hope, within his close circle of friends, there is someone there with the spiritual maturity to discuss with him the spiritual dynamics of what has been, and is, happening. Christians of all 'flavors' seem to have fairly easy access to him ... I pray he is getting wise counsel from someone(s), to help him navigate successfully thru this extremely intense time of spiritual warfare ...

"God, help our President."

 

[Francis Drake]

There are two things I see as necessary for an intervention. First, that President Trump himself is in such a place where he realizes that all his efforts have come to naught, and that only God can save the election, and indeed the nation. This is a process of humbling.

I disagree. Although that is a desirable outcome, both history and scripture show otherwise. God can deliver a nation by type of leader, provided the people humble themselves and cry out to the Lord.
You are not electing a pastor, but a president, and sadly, most pastor type characters would be useless in that role.
God anointed Cyrus to liberate the Jews, hardly the best example of perfection.

Probably the most important single change in English history, came about via Henry 8th. He wanted a divorce, which was forbidden under the Catholic Church.
He was a proud man and never really changed his arrogant nature, nevertheless he set in motion a spiritual freedom that revolutionised and transformed England.
Under the council of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Cranmer, Henry declared the complete separation of England from Rome. He made himself head of the church, instead of the Pope.
The new Church of England was still Catholic in practice, but it laid the foundation for a spiritual revolution to take place in due time.

Having said that, don't get me wrong, I believe that the Lord has been working deeply on Trump, and when this election fraud is overturned, I believe we will see Trump fully acknowledging that it is God who has done it, not him.

 

[paul1149]

"God, help our President."

Amen. I see the whole thing as planned, including outside instigation, the stand-down by Capitol police - some were even sent home beforehand, knowing that the rally was to move up to Capitol Hill, and the following attempt to pin everything on Trump. I don't watch MSM any more, just as I ignore its parallel posters online.

 

[paul1149]

I disagree. Although that is a desirable outcome, both history and scripture show otherwise.

Having said that, don't get me wrong, I believe that the Lord has been working deeply on Trump, and when this election fraud is overturned, I believe we will see Trump fully acknowledging that it is God who has done it, not him.

In that case I don't see what you're disagreeing with.

 

[tturt]

'President Donald Trump has fought for 4 years, to do the things he promised he would do.
He fought hard, worked tirelessly, for the things that are important to many of us."

'And I do hope, within his close circle of friends, there is someone there with the spiritual maturity to discuss with him the spiritual dynamics of what has been, and is, happening. Christians of all 'flavors' seem to have fairly easy access to him ... I pray he is getting wise counsel from someone(s), to help him navigate successfully thru this extremely intense time of spiritual warfare ..."

"God, help our President."

YES!!!