Discussion Where do false prophets go

[tturt]

speaking falsely for God...
reminds me of Oprah's "Belief" series. Some Christians endorsed it wholeheartedly- said it saved their lives. A program that promoted many ways to God and caused some to report that the nature of faith is shifting.

 

[lismore]

speaking falsely for God...
reminds me of Oprah's "Belief" series.

Think that's a good example of someone passing themselves off as a Christian but teaching false doctrines. Shows why we need to always be careful and exercise discernment IMO. God Bless

 

[lismore]

Yes better to not leave Him out of any equation or none of it will add up. On account of that’s just the way it is. Can’t say I like it like that.

Hello Cassia, I'm meaning 'leave God out of the equation' in a different sense.

I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied (Jeremiah 23:21)

It would have been better for the prophets in this reference not to have claimed divine mandate for their message, rather just honestly saying it was just their own views they were expressing. In this sense it would have been better for them to leave God and God's name out of the equation. God Bless

 

[GTW27]

Blessings in Christ Jesus to all. Has anyone for a moment considered, that because of where we stand in time, that it might perhaps be The Lords will that His anointed be held to silence concerning what is coming next by design. Did not Jesus warn us of these times. Is it not unfolding exactly as He said it would. Is it not a prophets job to point to Jesus and Jesus alone, and say listen to Him. And what did He say? Has anyone considered that perhaps the warnings already spoken are sufficient. If I were to say to you today, "many will be caught unaware," or "pray and watch" or " could you not watch with me for one hour"or "many false prophets, and false Christs shall arise. Have not these words already been spoken long ago. Have we not already been warned? To answer the question, "where do false prophets go?" Unless they be found in Christ Jesus and sealed until The Day of Redemption, they will perish. And they too will be caught unaware. When we are One with The Lord, we can clearly hear The Holy Spirit speak. And when something false comes our way such as a false prophet, or a false doctrine, The Lord will speak on the matter. This is why it says, "if possible, even the elect." It has been promised by Jesus that when He sends The comforter, The Holy Spirit, that He would bring into rememberence all that Jesus said. And this He does, to refute(and bear witness to The Truth)all that is false, weather it be a doctrine, a prophet(false), or a spirit. It was also promised that The Holy Spirit would show us what is coming next. So I believe The Lord has given us more than we need to be more than conquerors in Christ Jesus. Let us put our trust in Him alone, so that we will be able to stand in the days ahead.

 

[ARBITER01]

It would have been better for the prophets in this reference not to have claimed divine mandate for their message, rather just honestly saying it was just their own views they were expressing.

I don't know any person calling themselves a prophet nowadays that would admit to that. All these people want everyone to believe they are the real thing that they think they are.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

I don't know any person calling themselves a prophet nowadays that would admit to that. All these people want everyone to believe they are the real thing that they think they are.

In the same vein, they confuse their thoughts for a word from the Lord. If they end up being incorrect, though, that is where we see who genuinely thought it was from God and those who knew otherwise. Those who knew otherwise won't apologize...those who genuinely thought it was from God, will.

 

[tturt]

False prophets intentionally lead people away from God. (Matt 24:11, 24; II Pet 2:1). It's not when the word is in error - Deu 18:22

"Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5:20-21
Darby states "but prove all things, hold fast the right;".

To the extent you can, dont you 'prove" every teaching - sermon you hear?

 

[Servus]

Some of them seem to wind up on CF.

 

[lismore]

False prophets intentionally lead people away from God. (Matt 24:11, 24; II Pet 2:1). It's not when the word is in error - Deu 18:22

hello tturt! It may be difficult to reconcile your two statements. A word 'in error' i.e not true is leading people away from God, by it's very definition, because a word from God is true.

Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

As to the intentionally part, when 'prophets' repeatedly give words that they say are from God that are clearly not true they must know what they are doing is wrong. They must have malicious intent. Someone who repeatedly adds to God's words is a liar.

Deuteronomy 18:22 clearly links truth to the issue of prophecy.

God Bless

 

[spiritfilledjm]

Some of them seem to wind up on CF.

Everyone is a false prophet/teacher at some point to everyone else lol.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

hello tturt! It may be difficult to reconcile your two statements. A word 'in error' i.e not true is leading people away from God, by it's very definition, because a word from God is true.

Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

As to the intentionally part, when 'prophets' repeatedly give words that they say are from God that are clearly not true they must know what they are doing is wrong. They must have malicious intent. Someone who repeatedly adds to God's words is a liar.

Deuteronomy 18:22 clearly links truth to the issue of prophecy.

God Bless

I'd say there's a big difference between telling someone that they hear a word from the Lord that they should seek out a new job and telling someone that God is telling (or that the Bible says) them that their sin doesn't matter because grace abounds so sin however much you want.

The first example does not push someone to go against scripture or the commandments of God in anyway, it's just telling them to get a new job...though the implications of the person claiming to speak for God is questionable but that's not the point at the moment.

The second example does speak against the Word and the commandments of God by encouraging someone to commit sin without repentance.

 

[Servus]

Everyone is a false prophet/teacher at some point to everyone else lol.

I knew you were going to say that.

 

[lismore]

I'd say there's a big difference between telling someone that they hear a word from the Lord that they should seek out a new job and telling someone that God is telling (or that the Bible says) them that their sin doesn't matter because grace abounds so sin however much you want.

The first example does not push someone to go against scripture or the commandments of God in anyway, it's just telling them to get a new job...though the implications of the person claiming to speak for God is questionable but that's not the point at the moment.

The second example does speak against the Word and the commandments of God by encouraging someone to commit sin without repentance.

Yes. Interesting point. In the same manner there's a difference between stealing an apple and committing murder. However both are sins that, excepting the blood of Jesus, would send someone to Hell.

When someone tells a lie in God's name perhaps it is good to remember 'The Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name' (Exodus 20:7). God Bless

 

[lismore]

Where do false prophets go? Nowhere!

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[spiritfilledjm]

Where do false prophets go? Nowhere!

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Again?!

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

I'd say God finishes the work He first began. Philippians 1:6.