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Most people when they become believers don't even know what an Arminian or Calvinist is.
I started out as a Arminian...you must accept Christ, you can lose your salvation... then when I understood the doctrins put forth by those aligned with Calvins teachings I slowly changed.
Most people when they become believers don't even know what an Arminian or Calvinist is.
Most people when they become believers don't even know what an Arminian or Calvinist is.
And A Christian ?The person who led me to Christ was a Calvinist..
And A Christian ?
Still A Christian ?
Interesting! Was there something special that was the clear turning point for you to Calvinism?
If God created us to be unholy, then maybe He should be deserving of eternal torment-rather than blaming and punishing some pathetic creature for doing something He created them to do. It'd be like torturing your dog forever and ever for biting the neighbor's cat.Who ever said God had to save anyone?
...are you that holy?
Yes, exhortations to choose rightly, with the possibility of failing implied.He is knocking. He has been knocking.
TODAY, If you hear His Voice, do not rebel like they did in the wilderness and perished.
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Deuteronomy 1:26-38; Psalm 95:6-11; Hebrews 3:7-19 ...
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If humans cannot help but sin because God predetermined that such should be the case, then He's the direct cause, or author, of all sin. Willing/causing sin/evil is different from allowing it, for a time, for His purposes.God is not the author of sin. Where do you get that?
oh oh. danger will-robinson danger danger ....If God created us to be unholy, then maybe He should be deserving of eternal torment-rather than blaming and punishing some pathetic creature for doing something He created them to do. It'd be like torturing your dog forever and ever for biting the neighbor's cat.
That's not the point. Dogs biting things are dogs doing what comes naturally. And some cannot be trained to do otherwise BTW. But either way eternity would be an awfully long time for me to punish my dog-especially if I created him to do the very thing I'm punishing him for-if he had no responsibility for his crimes IOW. I wouldn't trust such a dog-owner/creator.oh oh. danger will-robinson danger danger ....
At least a dog can be trained in an hour not to bite a cat, even not to chase a cat.
Such speculation has been raised before-but doesn't fit the context at all IMO. Paul knows that man is still obligated to be righteous under the new covenant-but that this obligation is now to be fulfilled the right way, by love, initiated by a faith that brings us into communion with the only One who can accomplish that love in us, the only One who can justify us IOW. Then the law is fulfilled without being "under the law", meaning to fulfill it by my own efforts. Anyway, this reconciles the New Covenant prophecies, the teachings of Jesus, Paul, James, the whole of Scripture, et al.I think that quote in Romans is put under a specific context where Paul is building a theoretical case that those outside of knowing Christ (or rather, those who don't hear about Christ) may make it to heaven through good works - but he shatters the case for those who have heard the gospel, by starting with Romans 3:23 ("All have fallen short"). In other words, I don't think you can use that verse in the way you are implying.
Because we can feed it or starve it.You didn't answer the question. Why are people being commended for their faith with it's not their faith? (according to calvinism)
“But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,” Jude 20 (KJV 1900)That's a very arminian thought. In Calvinism, everything is predestined. You don't get to choose whether your faith grows or not.
No, you can exercise it and develop it. But it is of the Holy Spirit not the flesh.So you can choose faith after all? Make up your mind.
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