When was the Flood of Noah?

[joshua 1 9]

The Hebrew words which are translated as "whole earth" or "all the earth" are kol (Strong's number H3605), which means "all," and erets (Strong's number H776), which means "earth," "land," "country," or "ground."4 We don't need to look very far in Genesis (Genesis 2) before we find the Hebrew words kol erets.

Yes the Hebrew uses erets for earth but the word used for earth regarding Noah's flood was Adamah. This was the ground that God took Adam from. It is clearly a reference to Adams ecosystem and not the whole biosphere.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I do not feel good being called amusing when I try to be serious.

I have just the opposite problem.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why "thankfully"?

Um ... well ... because that would entail killing 99% of the population?

Consider this examples: remove 99% of all dog breeds and only keep great danes and st bernards.
Do you think mating them will produce a chiwawa?

I wouldn't want to find out.

Yes, this is very testable.

No.

Not ... even ... close.

 

[AV1611VET]

Dear Readers, Notice that when people who promote Evolution cannot refute God's Holy Word and they don't post actual evidence, but instead, make statements like the one above just before they run away.

Yes, I have.

And I have many challenge threads to prove it.

And I consider this to be the single most-important challenge I ever made.

Someone even tried to refute it with Thomas Paine.

 

[AV1611VET]

Dear Readers, There is NO evidence of a Global Flood on our Earth

Dear Readers, I [now] disagree.

... since such thinking is UnScriptural

... since the Scriptures is what got us to believing in a global flood in the first place.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's because the Flood totally destroyed Adam's Earth and NOT the present Earth. Amen?

If you'll click on my avatar, you'll see where I hail from.

There's a very basic doctrinal reason why I wrote "Earth One."

 

[AV1611VET]

When Noah and his family stepped out of the Ark, they were the only people on Earth.
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The above information is the view of ancient Theologians and does not agree with Scripture, Science not History.

For the sake of arguing, I don't care if there were 10 to the 10th power quadrillion people on the earth.

Let me clarify where I stand.

The Sumerians, Egyptians, Chinese, Native Americans, and Aboriginals came later -- after the Flood.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

1. I credit the year of the Flood to Bishop Ussher's chronology in general, and Genesis 6-9 in particular.

2. Noah didn't live anywhere near the Black Sea region when the Flood started. In other words, Noah ended his journey in the mountains of Ararat; he did not start his journey there.

3. All evidence for the Flood that wasn't "tied down" was siphoned off the earth and sent elsewhere. Evidence on the earth is, in my opinion, as follows:​

a) the White Cliffs of Dover and other swept-up and stockpiled coccolithophores

b) meandering rivers
c) the written documentation from God​

Ussher missed the age of Abraham by a few decades, not having the history book of the Upright, which shows Abraham was born to Terah when Terah was 70 years old.
Noah did not die until Abraham was 58 years old. The flood ended 292 years before Abraham was born.
Shem lived 502 years after the flood, and lived two hundred ten years after Abraham was born.
Abraham died age 175, Shem lived 35 years after Abraham died.
Jacob and Esau were born five years after Shem died.
My math is terrible, atrocious, and awful, and I hate numbers because they do not remain as pictures in my mind, like words do, and this may need correcting, but Abraham and Shem were contemporaries, and friends.
Shem and Noah lived at Mount Moriah, and that is where Abraham was told to offer Isaac as a sacrifice, and named Mount Moriah, YAH [shall be] Reu/seen [in His] Tselem/image...I do not believe the original name of Jerusalem was from Shalowm/peace, but from Tselem, image, and the "t" is dropped as often happens in contractions.
Shem is the same King of Righteousness who met Abraham and blessed him on his return from the rout of the four kings , Nimrod being one of them who was routed by Abram [Amraphael was Nimrod, named that because "in him [el] the people [am] died/fell [rapha] -at the tower. Shem was morphosed to the likeness/type of the Son of God, as the author of Hebrews states, by his not being named in Torah; but he was named in the writings of the Jews.
Terah was Nimrod's general, and named Abram "exalted father" because Nimrod had exalted Terah as counsel over him and a general in his army.
Nimrod lived to age 215, and Esau killed him when he was 16 years old, the day he came in famished from the hunt and sold his birthright to Jacob.
All the history of the Patriarchs is chronologically given in the history book, the Book of The Upright, from Adam.... until Joshua goes into Canaan,, and does not conflict with, but corroborates, the Torah as to the ages and times, and more details are given which are redacted for Torah accounts, of the lives of the Patriarchs.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ussher missed the age of Abraham, not having the history book of the Upright ...

He wasn't meant to have it.

If he was meant to have it, God would have made sure it would have been in the AV1611 Bible.

(And not in the Apocryphal part, either.)

The AV1611 Version corrects not only faulty history, but It corrects sloppy writing from other sources as well.

Septuagint, Vulgate, Dead Sea Scrolls, Masoretic Text, Textus Receptus, Strong's Concordance, books of the Apocrypha -- all can take a hike -- a LONG one.

And stay out.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Yes, I have.

And I have many challenge threads to prove it.

And I consider this to be the single most-important challenge I ever made.

Someone even tried to refute it with Thomas Paine.

I thought I recognized that name from somewhere:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-destruction70AD-george-holford-1805AD.htm
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:

"I consider the Prophecy relative to the destruction of the Jewish nation, if there were nothing else to support Christianity, as absolutely irresistible."(Mr. Erskine's Speech, at the Trial of Williams, for publishing Paine's 'Age of Reason')

http://www.ushistory.org/paine/reason/singlehtml.htm

By Thomas Paine

TO MY FELLOW-CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

I PUT the following work under your protection. It contains my opinions upon Religion. You will do me the justice to remember, that I have always strenuously supported the Right of every Man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.............

My Private Thoughts on a Future State.
I have said, in the first part of the Age of Reason, that "I hope for happiness after this life." This hope is comfortable to me, and I presume not to go beyond the comfortable idea of hope, with respect to a future state.

I consider myself in the hands of my Creator, and that he will dispose of me after this life consistently with his justice and goodness. I leave all these matters to him, as my Creator and friend, and I hold it to be presumption in man to make an article of faith as to what the Creator will do with us hereafter.



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[Ben West]

Dear Readers, I [now] disagree.... since the Scriptures is what got us to believing in a global flood in the first place.

I agree BUT it was Adam's Earth which was totally destroyed in the Global Flood ll Peter 3:3-7 that "clean dissolved" Isaiah 24:19 Adam's Flat Earth. The Scoffers/Evols of the last days will not agree since this totally DESTROYS their made up ToE, which rejects God's Truth that man was made on another world which was absolutely destroyed in the Flood. Amen?

 

[AV1611VET]

I agree BUT it was Adam's Earth which was totally destroyed in the Global Flood ll Peter 3:3-7 that "clean dissolved" Isaiah 24:19 Adam's Flat Earth. The Scoffers/Evols of the last days will not agree since this totally DESTROYS their made up ToE, which rejects God's Truth that man was made on another world which was absolutely destroyed in the Flood. Amen?

And let me guess:

Adam holds the key to eternal life, doesn't he?

 

[Ben West]

If you'll click on my avatar, you'll see where I hail from.

There's a very basic doctrinal reason why I wrote "Earth One."

I'm sure there is but can you support it Scripturally? Does your Earth have water under it which comes up like a mist and waters the whole face of the Earth? Gen 2:6 Does it have only 4 Rivers which all flow from the same River which flows from the Garden of Eden? Gen 2:10 Can the highest mountains of your Earth be covered with water only 15 cubits (22.5 feet) deep? Gen 7:20

Is your Earth in the first firmament which was made in the middle of the water on the SECOND Day? Gen 1:8 If so, I hate to tell you, but your Earth, the world (Kosmos) that THEN WAS was totally destroyed in the Flood.

2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally)

Amen?

 

[Ben West]

And let me guess:

Adam holds the key to eternal life, doesn't he?

No, that's Jesus. His Gospel is the Power of God unto Salvation. Adam was just a man in need of a Saviour. Amen?

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm sure there is but can you support it Scripturally?

Yes

Does your Earth have water under it which comes up like a mist and waters the whole face of the Earth?

Not anymore.

We live in a different dispensation, not on a different planet.

Does it have only 4 Rivers which all flow from the same River which flows from the Garden of Eden?

No, and it never did.

Eden = Pangaea

Can the highest mountains of your Earth be covered with water only 15 cubits (22.5 feet) deep?

No, and it never was.

Is your Earth in the first firmament which was made in the middle of the water on the SECOND Day?

The first firmament is the atmosphere, the second firmament is outer space, and the third firmament is Heaven proper.

If so, I hate to tell you, but your Earth, the world (Kosmos) that THEN WAS was totally destroyed in the Flood.

And rebuilt from the ground up in about a week or two.

Earth One will one day be destroyed by atomic fire (?) when God orders the strong nuclear force to STAND ASIDE (i.e., TAKE A HIKE).

 

[AV1611VET]

No, that's Jesus. His Gospel is the Power of God unto Salvation. Adam was just a man in need of a Saviour. Amen?

Just wondering.

 

[Ben West]

Just wondering.

On another board with fundamentalist Bible believing Christians, I am probably the most fundamental of them all. It's because I believe every jot and tittle of God's Holy Word as written in the King James Version of Scripture. As the Youngest of the Young Earthers, I show that it was NOT 6k years ago when God started His Creation, but instead, less than 6 Days ago. Amen?

 

[Ben West]

Yes Not anymore.

We live in a different dispensation, not on a different planet. No, and it never did.

Eden = Pangaea No, and it never was.The first firmament is the atmosphere, the second firmament is outer space, and the third firmament is Heaven proper.And rebuilt from the ground up in about a week or two.

Earth One will one day be destroyed by atomic fire (?) when God orders the strong nuclear force to STAND ASIDE (i.e., TAKE A HIKE).

Jesus said that He was going to prepare a place for us and Paul was taken up to the THIRD Heaven and so was John the Revelator, who described it. Do you really think that God is going to burn our Earth and then rebuild it? Have you read ll Peter 3:3-7? Amen?

 

[PeterDona]

As I recall, the half life of DNA is 521 years.

Now that is a very interesting information. Let's dig into that.
livescience.com
Hmmm, 521 years, being 400 times slower than simulation experiments predicted !?
I believe that those simulation experiments would be to put computersimulated DNA molecules under normal temperatures and pressure, but in a dead cell without repair function, and then simulate the breakdown of the DNA. When this is described as an "experiment", I believe there is a bit of testing including or excluding certain conditions, and evaluating the results.
But the half-life of the DNA from those birds also was measured with a hidden assumption, namely that those birds were really those 8000 years old. So ....
Seems to be the only research ever done on this interesting fact.

 

[AV1611VET]

On another board with fundamentalist Bible believing Christians, I am probably the most fundamental of them all. It's because I believe every jot and tittle of God's Holy Word as written in the King James Version of Scripture. As the Youngest of the Young Earthers, I show that it was NOT 6k years ago when God started His Creation, but instead, less than 6 Days ago. Amen?

Don't you mean less than 7 Days ago, since the Bible doesn't say, "And the evening and the morning were the seventh day"?