When is it gonna be enough?

[dogs4thewin]

I see. So you equate guns with freedom. Do you think there is anything more important than freedom?

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Just so you know, though you say you're sympathetic to those who have lost, it doesn't come across. Your responses are often interpreted as those of an insensitive, belligerent red neck. But I doubt that's really who you are. I'd bet you're an intelligent, faithful guy with a strong sense of duty. I just think there's a better way to show it. Threatening to fight to the death with those Americans who oppose your ideas sounds like you're willing to take other people's freedom to preserve your way of life. I expect that's not what you mean to convey.

Actually Jefferson or Franklin one said something to the effect of he who is willing to exchange freedom for temp. safety deserves neither freedom NOR safety.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yeah, unfortunately the bad guys feel no such restraint.

yes, that is why it is important for good guys to have guns, but it is also important for good guys to know when they may lawfully use them on other people.

 

[W2L]

I'm not gonna be debating God and his role in the evil of this world or whatever. What I am going to say is something that needs to be said.

We've had yet another school shooting this morning in Texas. We've had yet another wicked, truly evil person walk in freely and murder eight students. If that does not outrage you, you are not human and have no pulse.

The last thing we need to offer are just "thoughts and prayers." Thoughts and prayers are not enough anymore. God hates gun violence. Period. And so should we.

How many school shootings is it going to take for the church to wake up to the fact that there are truly evil people in this world? That Satan has made it clear he is not going to play fair? Does it have to go so far as to seeing their own children murdered? I'm all for the second amendment, but is it worth defending at the cost of these kids lives?

Bottomline, this is all outrageous and disgusting. All of us, liberals, conservatives, Christians, Atheists, whatever! We all need to start sending demands our police and politicians and gun manufacturers, "DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!"

Kids get killed in car accidents far more than by gun violence, im assuming. How many deaths will it take till we ban cars?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Kids get killed in car accidents far more than by gun violence, im assuming. How many deaths will it take till we ban cars?

and most of those cases involve human behavior just as gun violence does.

 

[W2L]

and most of those cases involve human behavior just as gun violence does.

Yes, i agree.

 

[section9+1]

If I believed that all it took to make people satisfied was a little tighter gun control and that would be the end of it, I'd be the first in line to submit to it. But that is a flat lie. We've got tighter gun control than there's ever been. The real agenda is to eliminate all guns from the public and anything less is an absolute lie.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yes, i agree.

That was meant to rebut people's claims that cars are not meant to kill, but neither thing kills ( in the vest majority of cases without some human force). In other words cars ONLY kill when used incorrectly and guns ( generally) only kill people if the person does SOMETHING. Very rarely does a gun fire itself.

 

[dogs4thewin]

If I believed that all it took to make people satisfied was a little tighter gun control and that would be the end of it, I'd be the first in line to submit to it. But that is a flat lie. We've got tighter gun control than there's ever been. The real agenda is to eliminate all guns from the public and anything less is an absolute lie.

Either that or at the very least people misunderstanding the greater plan.

 

[Invalidusername]

I see. So you equate guns with freedom. Do you think there is anything more important than freedom?

- - -

Just so you know, though you say you're sympathetic to those who have lost, it doesn't come across. Your responses are often interpreted as those of an insensitive, belligerent red neck. But I doubt that's really who you are. I'd bet you're an intelligent, faithful guy with a strong sense of duty. I just think there's a better way to show it. Threatening to fight to the death with those Americans who oppose your ideas sounds like you're willing to take other people's freedom to preserve your way of life. I expect that's not what you mean to convey.

Cool everyone who disagrees with you is a belligerent red neck. Now I know to stop talking to you.

 

[Hank77]

I agree, I could not find any site which distinguished between any of the various types of gun death; homicide, suicide, accident etc.

Gun Laws vs Gun Deaths

 

[dogs4thewin]

Gun Laws vs Gun Deaths

homicide would also be the legal intervention.

 

[Resha Caner]

Actually Jefferson or Franklin one said something to the effect of he who is willing to exchange freedom for temp. safety deserves neither freedom NOR safety.

Sure. I wasn't suggesting we sacrifice freedom for the sake of safety. But I do, personally, value some things more than freedom - such as my faith.

 

[Hank77]

got one, also
my next door former elderly neighbors had their house broken into at 7:30 a.m. when intruder probably thought people gone to work

they heard their sliding glass being smashed, got up, and started walking downstairs as they were still in bed

as soon as the guy saw them he took off and they called police
neighbor also called me which scared me as husband was out of town and I moved our refrigerator in front of our back door

but anyway, if neighbors had a gun, they'd probably have hurt themselves instead as they both had medical conditions and would have been in no position to use a gun

They probably would have hurt themselves. But that is for them to decide, not me or you.

 

[dogs4thewin]

They probably would have hurt themselves. But that is for them to decide, not me or you.

and possibily the sheriff if it was a case of CCW.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Burglary rates per capita: Interesting that the five worst countries are those that have strict gun laws.

Burglary rate by countries, 2017 - knoema.com

 

[Resha Caner]

Cool everyone who disagrees with you is a belligerent red neck. Now I know to stop talking to you.

I actually said I don't think you are. I was hoping to help you see how others might perceive you. I guess it didn't work.

 

[mama2one]

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[dogs4thewin]

Burglary rates per capita: Interesting that the five worst countries are those that have strict gun laws.

Burglary rate by countries, 2017 - knoema.com

Really burgery has little to nothing to do with gun laws though.

 

[Hank77]

homicide would also be the legal intervention.

?
Legal intervention is law enforcement. However, I know they are off in one of their statements in regards to that. They say 500 killed by law enforcement but just last year over 1,000 people were killed by the police.
I thought that when police feel safe enough to not have guns to protect their families then the citizenry can feel safe to do the same.

 

[Hank77]

that is where gun safety classes/tests would come in

just as someone who can't pass driver's test, not allowed to drive
if person doesn't pass gun ownership test, no gun

So you would have people tested every year?